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Auctions with tractors parts-WHO buys there- do you prefer farm auctions or huge consignment auctions?

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9n141

12-29-2002 13:51:40




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I love auctions especially farm auctions! How does every one else do it? That is research? Phone calls to owner or auctioneer? What do you do at the auction, show very little interest, a lot of interest or no interest???? Thank you. BURT P.S. Love to auction stories. HOW do you bid?? THanks.




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Rick(MN)

12-30-2002 12:24:53




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 Re: Auctions with tractors parts-WHO buys there- do you prefer farm auctions or huge consignment auctions? in reply to 9n141, 12-29-2002 13:51:40  
One other thing, when choosing between farm and consignment sales, the previous post are right. Often times, the items are consigned because the owner is getting rid of a headache. But.....just as often, people are getting rid of a few items no longer needed or using a consignment sale to generate quick cash. I like consignment sales mostly for learning. They are one of the best ways to establish what the market actually is. Even if one of the last 2 bidders is the owner, you can be sure that of all the people there, not one person would pay more than the top bid. Also, consignment sales tend to be attended by jockeys, further establishing value. BUT.....bottom line still is..... BUYER BEWARE

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Rick(MN)

12-30-2002 12:14:21




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 Re: Auctions with tractors parts-WHO buys there- do you prefer farm auctions or huge consignment auctions? in reply to 9n141, 12-29-2002 13:51:40  
I have probably purchased a couple hundred tractors at auction in the past 20 yrs. While opinions will differ, I like to get a coffee and a hot dog, and stand within earshot of the tractor without showing any interest. It will be amazing how many things people will find wrong with a tractor that I had missed. Also,the varying opinions will give you a good idea of the value it will bring, Quite often, someone who knows some history of the tractor will show up and share his knowledge with whoever will listen. When bidding, I try to wait to get in until the last few bids. I prefer to only bid when I have a real chance of owning the piece. Hope this helps, Rick

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Colin in WI

12-29-2002 20:56:23




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 Re: Auctions with tractors parts-WHO buys there- do you prefer farm auctions or huge consignment auctions? in reply to 9n141, 12-29-2002 13:51:40  
A tactic that I use at auctions is to pick out buyers who obviously are resellers. Assuming that they're going to want to markup what they buy by 25% to 50% or more, I feel comfortable bidding a little more than they do. Just a little though! It's always a safe bet to set your absolute maximum in advance and stick to it.



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BC Mike C

12-29-2002 17:06:00




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 Re: Auctions with tractors parts-WHO buys there- do you prefer farm auctions or huge consignment auctions? in reply to 9n141, 12-29-2002 13:51:40  
I sometimes buy cows in the spring at auction. It all happens so fast. I know the weight and type that I want in advance, and how much I'm prepared to pay. If the cow looks okay I start bidding. But sometimes when we load what I have bought I think "did I really buy that cow?" When I went to the equipment auction I found an IH tractor to bid on. Father in law said he would disown my wife and I if we bought an IH tractor. Told my wife we had to have it. He liked green and yellow. I figured $1750 was my top price. It went past $2K so fast made my head spin. Sold for $3250-, last equipment auction I ever went to. Bought Herb our 9N for $2250- privately. BC Mike C

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RICKWI

12-29-2002 17:09:52




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 Re: Re: Auctions with tractors parts-WHO buys there- do you prefer farm auctions or huge consignment auctions? in reply to BC Mike C, 12-29-2002 17:06:00  
Biggest awakening is when you have set your maximum bid, and the bidding starts higher than that.



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BC Mike C

12-29-2002 18:47:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Auctions with tractors parts-WHO buys there- do you prefer farm auctions or huge consignment auctions? in reply to RICKWI, 12-29-2002 17:09:52  
That happened this year with the cows, so I did not buy any. Pay a buck fifty to one seventy in the spring and sell them for $1.25 in the fall. The more you have the more you loose. Just like real farming. No disrespect for roperboy but sometimes the ropers who only want two will run up the bid cause it does not change their total price by much. I'll try again next year. BC Mike C



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Poor ole Ted Turner..........bg

12-29-2002 19:54:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Auctions with tractors parts-WHO buys there- do you prefer farm auctions or huge consignment auctions? in reply to BC Mike C, 12-29-2002 18:47:24  
'sides being married(?) to Jane Hanoi-Hattie Fonda, he paid $2000 each for a bunch of bison, only got $300 ea at auction. Like the man said, "If I won the lottery, I'd keep on farmin', 'til it was all gone."



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bg...NCAL #7275

12-29-2002 14:41:24




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 Re: Auctions with tractors parts-WHO buys there- do you prefer farm auctions or huge consignment auctions? in reply to 9n141, 12-29-2002 13:51:40  
All types of folks go to auctions. The kind I don't like(as a buyer)are the ones who have more money than God. The kind I do like(as an auctioneer)are the ones who have more money than God.

I prefer farm auctions over consignment sales, because consignment sales are usually a good place to dump things that have problems. At consignment sales, you have professional buyers who work the circuit and know the market. They usually have an inside track with the auctioneer who knows what that buyer wants and will work the bids that way.

Do your homework before you go to an auction. Go to lots of auctions and don't bid. Watch the crowd and the auction team. See how they shuffle the items into the sale. If you are in the market for certain items, whether it be furniture or collectibles or machinery, read up on recent auction results and learn all you can about the items. Sometimes they'll have inspections a day before or several hours before. Some auction websites have the auction inventory listed a week or so ahead.

At the auction look at all the things you are interested in, set a maximum price you would be willing to spend. Watch the others who look, and listen to their comments. Keep your mouth shut. If you even point out flaws and imperfections, that's a signal that you're interested.

Station yourself near the item, but don't hover. It's sometimes a good idea to bid first early in th auction, even if you end up buying something you don't want. The auctioneer will remember the first bidder and will watch you more closely. Make eye contact with the auctioneer or ring man, and don't bid too quickly or too high. He's gonna start high or around the value and hope to go up. If he starts at $100 and gets no response, he'll roll it back in brackets until he gets an opening bid. Then he'll raise the call in brackets. For instance, if he gets an opening bid of $20 and goes to $30, he's running a $10 bracket. If you jump in with a 50¢ bid, he'll likely ignore you at first, looking for a $40 or $45 bid. If he doesn't get it, he'll come back and take your 50#&162 bid, but it makes him work harder. Then he'll ask for the $40 or $45 bid and keep going up in brackets. When the bids stop coming he'll cry it 3 times and drop the hammer.

AS far as bidding, you hear stories about folks who were scratching their ear and ended up buying something they didn't want. Seldom happens. A head nod, or wave of the bidding card, a raised finger a wink can all be bidding signals, but you have to have eye contact with the one taking the bids. If you get confused, stop and ask the acutioneer or ringman what the bid is. Watch and know who you are bidding against. Keep your eyes and ears open. They don't have to tell you who the other bidders are, and a lot of time the auctioneer will have a proxy bid for a certain buyer, or a telephone bidder. The age of cell phones has really changed auctioneering. A field buyer can communicate instantly with his money man, who may have a consumer on the other line in some other state.

Like Dell says, you can save a lot of money by being the second-highest bidder. Don't be afraid to stop bidding if it goes beyond your pocketbook.

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RICKWI

12-29-2002 17:07:07




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 Re: Re: Auctions with tractors parts-WHO buys there- do you prefer farm auctions or huge consignment auctions? in reply to bg...NCAL #7275 , 12-29-2002 14:41:24  
Yes to what Bob said. And.
1. Stand behind the auctioneer for a while and see if you can find the bidders. Some auctioneers bring their own imaginary bidders. One in particular had "Tom Jones" buying many items that didn't go high enough. Personally, I prefer being told if it is a reserve auction up front, or if the auctioneer is buying things for his end of year resale auction.
2. It is far cheaper to kick youreslf for not buying something than it is to kick yourself for buying it.

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