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Philip

01-06-2003 04:50:31




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I am looking at buying a sand blast cabinet to be used mainly for tractor restorations. I am looking at the Cyclone model PK36, and the Central Pneumatic model 39170. Does anyone have one of these models and would like to tell me how you like/dislike it? I would also like to hear if you have another model and like it. What type of blasters are you guys selling parts on e-bay using? The parts sure do look nice. I am setting my budget at $300, so my options will be somewhat limited. Thank you for your help. Philip.

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Thanks Guys, Philip

01-07-2003 04:09:17




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 Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to Philip, 01-06-2003 04:50:31  
Thanks for your input. Philip.



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Scott.ID

01-06-2003 16:51:19




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 Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to Philip, 01-06-2003 04:50:31  
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Philip,

I bought a pot blaster 2 or 3 years ago, and only used it maybe 6 times. The things are a real pain to set up and run, so I parked it permanently last year. There is a body shop here in town that blasts semi's for $25.00 an hour, and if I have something big that needs blasted, I just drop it off over there and pick it up the next day.

I have a cabinet blaster set up permanently in my shop and I use it on average once a week. It is about 36" wide, 32" high and 24" deep. Works great. I bought mine at Harbor Freight for about a hundred bucks, and it's lasted two years without much maintenance.

I do have a little advice though-

Buy the metal cased one. I've heard that the plastic ones warp.

Toss the fluorescent light after it clouds up. I hooked up two 100W fixtures inside and can see great. Buy the cheaper clear bulbs, they'll have that nice "frosted" look soon enough.

When the gloves tear, and they will, replace them with “Parts Washer” gloves. A lot more flexible, and only cost about 4 bucks a pair.

Get yourself a small Shop Vac and hook it to the filter port. I run a HEPA filter and a filter bag in mine, and I could blast in a black suit if I wanted to and you wouldn't be able to tell. You can also toss the bag when it’s full without much of a mess.

The Shop Vac supplies enough suction on the cabinet that I can't open the cabinet door while the vac and air are running. It's a lot better than dust all over the shop!

Wire in a permanent switch to supply power to both the cabinet lights and the Shop Vac. Flick one switch and you are ready to go.


My nickels worth,

Scott

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Gaspump

01-06-2003 10:47:09




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 Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to Philip, 01-06-2003 04:50:31  
Built my oun using free 5/8" scrap roofing plywood, used auto glass, and a complete nozzle kit for same from TIP Products. Total cost was less than $130. I built of my own design but tip also sells plans for building one for $7.50. I also use a pressure blast pot I made from an old freon can, also free. Spent about $35 for 3 ball valves, hose and piping to build it. These were featured in a five page spread in Europes "Power Magazine". By the way they both work great!

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E. ray

01-06-2003 11:35:47




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 Re: Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to Gaspump, 01-06-2003 10:47:09  
Have no inexperience with sand blasting, but would like to have a blaster to clean things with. What would I need to build one and now do I do it? A pot not a cabinet..... ..thanks



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Gaspump

01-06-2003 14:04:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to E. ray, 01-06-2003 11:35:47  
Welcome to the N board E.Ray, If you are new to sand blasting it may be in your best interest to check Northerntool.com and check out the sandblasters there. To make one you need a welding machine, 3 ball valves, some pipe fittings, tubing and fittings. Also you will need a sand hose, ceramic nozzle and holder. All this is quite easy to do if you have the know how and shop equipment. Might want to look at one and then it is would be easy to produce one similar to it.

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Dave Smith

01-06-2003 14:50:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to Gaspump, 01-06-2003 14:04:34  
You will also need a hood. That sand flys everywere. I bought my pressure sandblaster on ebay for about $100 less than I found any other place. It is not comercial duty but it fills my need. I don't think I could have made it much cheaper.
Dave <*)))><



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Al L. in Wisc.

01-06-2003 18:42:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to Dave Smith, 01-06-2003 14:50:20  
Is your blaster similar to the units I see on ebay - 20 gal. size/40 lb. pot? Looking to get one for spring cleaning lol. Have 2N that needs attention.



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Dave Smith

01-06-2003 18:54:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to Al L. in Wisc., 01-06-2003 18:42:07  
Yes, Also check out Grizzlt tools. About $140 in thier catalog.
Dave <*)))><



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David - OR

01-06-2003 07:05:35




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 Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to Philip, 01-06-2003 04:50:31  
If you have the space, consider getting a pressure pot and doing the blasting outside. The pressure pots work better than the siphon blasters and you don't have to deal with dust collection -- it just blows off in the wind. You can blast any size part, have plenty of light, and it costs less than the blast cabinet.

For media, look in the phone book under "abrasives". Around here, you can buy a product called "Vitrogrit" at 90 pounds for $7.00 or so. It's recycled glass that has been crushed into a fine powder. The process of making glass from sand fuses the free silica crystals, and crushing the glass does not re-grow the crystals, so the end result is silica-free sand available in a variety of grit sizes. No silica means you don't have nearly the health issues of trying to use real sand.

I did all the engine parts and the hood of my tractor with 3 bags of Vitrogrit. It just wasn't worth the trouble to collect, sieve, and recycle the media at $7.00 a bag -- and many types of blast media (including this one) "wear out" after just a few trips through the blaster.

There are similar (cheap and relatively safe) abrasives available other places -- ground-up slag called "Black Beauty" is one of them.

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E. Ray

01-06-2003 09:57:24




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 Re: Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to David - OR, 01-06-2003 07:05:35  
David..... ..... ... “splain” pressure pot to me please. Are these home made or bought. I think I know what you are talking about, just never occurred to me.



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Dave Smith

01-06-2003 10:05:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to E. Ray, 01-06-2003 09:57:24  
E. Ray, Better yet go to the link below. They can be bought just about anyplace, Harbor Frieght, Grizzly tool etc.
Dave <*)))><



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Dave Smith

01-06-2003 07:29:44




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 Re: Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to David - OR, 01-06-2003 07:05:35  
I also have a pressure pot for larger stuff. But for small parts the cabnet is a lot more convienent. I want to try Willy Ns method of high pressure washer sand blasting. That will have to wait till warm weather. Dave <*)))><



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Mountainman

01-06-2003 09:35:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to Dave Smith, 01-06-2003 07:29:44  
Hey Dave,

I had my truck blasted a few years ago. The guy uses a type of soda that is sharp like diamonds and doesn't create the heat of some of the other media. It will dull chrome a little but mostly it removes paint and bondo without warping the panel.

It requires a huge compressor (he rents it) - the compressors in most body shops are not even close to enough.

Thought you might find it interesting. I'm going to have him do the sheetmetal on my 8N when the time comes.

N - joy.

Mountainman...CA

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Dan (Myersville)

01-06-2003 05:57:56




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 Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to Philip, 01-06-2003 04:50:31  
Whatever you get dust collection is a MUST. You can't see inside the cabinet once you fire up the gun without it. Lacking $300 for this item I built my own from one of those Rubbermaid storage tubs and a piece of window glass duct taped into a opening I cut in the top. Cut holes for my arms and the hose from my freestanding blast gun and attached a shop vac for dust collection. Kind of clumsy but it works.

I prefer letting my machine shop cook all of the larger items in their hot tank and shot blast it for me. Things like carb bodys or parts you can't tank (generator, starter, etc) I clean with Gunk SC and then blast with glass bead media. The local TSC here sells blast media (Glass, Aluminum Oxide, and Garnet) in 50# buckets for $20-$30 depending on the media. Both Enco and MSC sell media and lots of other good stuff online and delivery is fast and cheap:

www.use-enco.com www.mscdirect.com

The have an extensive stock of blast cabinets.

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Dave Smith

01-06-2003 05:42:17




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 Re: Sand blasting cabinets in reply to Philip, 01-06-2003 04:50:31  
Philip, A lot of years ago I bought a kit from eastwood. (Tip) It came with the window, Gloves, hoses, gun and a set of plans to build the cabnet from plywood. It has done a good job for my needs but definatly would not be for comercial use. The only real drawback is the window. It comes with clear plastic sheeting to protect the glass on the inside. The sand bouncing around in there clouds the plastic up fast and needs changing often. Also a good dust collection system is a MUST. You don't want sylacosis (SP). Dave <*)))><

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