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Best thread sealant? Machinists out there?

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Richard

01-29-2003 03:06:33




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My NAA hydraulic pump is leaking fluid through the bolts. It come through the threads and out through the bolt heads.

I may try silicone but is there another type of compound that would provide a better seal if I squeeze it into the threaded holes?

My "good" neighbor who is an expert about everything including everyones personal lives, and has no interest in how much people make and doesn't brag about how much he buys and has no opinion about anything told me to visit a mcahine shop and tell them becasue there are special compounds for that. Any ideas what he may be referring to?

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Richard

01-29-2003 17:42:47




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 Re: Best thread sealant? Machinists out there? in reply to Richard, 01-29-2003 03:06:33  
two mountng bolts on top. replaced gaskets and o-rings below. it's the two bolts on top nearest the gears.



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Jim(S.E. MI.)

01-29-2003 14:17:28




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 Re: Best thread sealant? Machinists out there? in reply to Richard, 01-29-2003 03:06:33  
Richard,
Is it leaking through the Mounting bolts? (bolts used to mount pump to tractor).
Or is it leaking from the pump assembly bolts?
You are not clear on this.
Jim



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Bishop

01-29-2003 05:44:36




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 Re: Best thread sealant? Machinists out there? in reply to Richard, 01-29-2003 03:06:33  
Look for "Pipetite" it will work on pressurised sealed threads. Gasoline, natural gas, fuel, water, oil, etc. It comes in a stick form, like candle wax and you scrape it on the threads. Once dried is the best thread sealant you can buy.



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ZANE

01-29-2003 04:33:36




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 Re: Best thread sealant? Machinists out there? in reply to Richard, 01-29-2003 03:06:33  
I am assuming that you have a later piston pump and not the original vane pump.

If oil is coming out the bolts you have a leaking head gasket in the pump and putting thread sealing/locking compound on them is just going to "compound" the problem when you try to get them out.

Buy a repair kit and fix the pump. There are two gaskets under the head of the pump. One is against the casting of the pump housing and the other is against the head housing and is hidden under a stainles steel plate that has a screw in the middle of it. There is a small cutaway in the edge of this plate that is there so you can get a screw driver under the plate to pry it off.

Somebody in the past may have done some inspirational mechanicing on the safety relief valve that has caused the pump head gasket to blow. If the safety relief valve does not open at the desired pressure and stays closes something has to give and if you are lucky it is the system relief valve or the head gasket. If you are unlucky it is the camshaft etc.

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Don, Luling LA

01-29-2003 04:21:10




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 Re: Best thread sealant? Machinists out there? in reply to Richard, 01-29-2003 03:06:33  
I use loctite 242 on threads, haven't had a problem with it yet. It not only seals them but locks them in place. With 242 you can use standard tools to remove the nut, bolt or stud. Now if want some really strong stuff and don't plan on removing again for some time can use loctite 271. If you need to remove the part after using 271 they recommend using heat but I have had luck with standard tools. Just make sure you clean the threads up real good. Brake cleaner works pretty good for that.
Good luck

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Don, Luling LA

01-29-2003 04:20:35




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 Re: Best thread sealant? Machinists out there? in reply to Richard, 01-29-2003 03:06:33  
I use loctite 242 on threads, haven't had a problem with it yet. It not only seals them but locks them in place. With 242 you can use standard tools to remove the nut, bolt or stud. Now if want some really strong stuff and don't plan on removing again for some time can use loctite 271. If you need to remove the part after using 271 they recommend using heat but I have had luck with standard tools. Just make sure you clean the threads up real good. Brake cleaner works pretty good for that.
Good luck

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