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8nguy

01-31-2003 06:53:01




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i do believe that depression has gotten the best of me, i have become more and more sad and have had no thoughts of the tractor i love so much.

Last night i spent 2 hours last night cryin and i could have sworn that i could have taken my life away..i was askin for somone to come with a knife and stick it through my heart...i dont need it anymore...oh well life goes on...wonder how many ppl here have depression..??!?!?

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i think im feellin better som of my tractor friends helped me

02-03-2003 09:09:15




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
one of the tractor guys i talk to who owns AC tractors helped me out!!



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02-02-2003 18:39:14




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
My friend, you need to see your Doctor immediately. Very probably your depression can be successfully treated with one of the medications that are available.

I suffered horribly from depression for years and many times had serious thoughts of ending my life. At my loved ones' insistance, I went to a psychiatrist, who put me on Prozac. We also dealt with some problems I had never resolved. It is not as hard to do as it might seem.

Dealing with my depression saved my marriage and probably saved my life. While I will most likely need medication for the rest of my life, at least I have a life. And most of the time it is enjoyable and I can face the moments when it isn't so good.

Get it taken care of! It is so worth it.

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oslo in NC

02-01-2003 12:54:51




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
8nguy you made your post. Now you have a lot of people concerned about you. Please give us a reply.

oslo in NC



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indy

02-01-2003 04:37:02




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
I belelieve there is more than just depression
going on....I see surpressed anger in your recent posts,lonliness and signs of childhood abuse.winter blues are common this time of the year and valentine's Day can bring it on as well.Your mind is the most powerful thing you have.It is important to keep it active and rested to keep it healthy.



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k strehle

02-01-2003 03:24:51




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
yrs ago i was told by a cousin that hit the skids and in treatment that when you think you cant get any lower and youve hit rock bottom all things can do is get better. which will happen. just dont get overwhelmed by everything at ounce and think things through.



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problem is...

02-01-2003 18:14:11




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 Re: Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to k strehle, 02-01-2003 03:24:51  
Ya just don't know were bottom is??? It can go on for some a lo..... I'll stick my boot in my mouth...i can't go on...



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John fitzpatrick

01-31-2003 19:15:01




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
Depression- not sadness- is a disease like diabetes that needs to be treated. If you find yourself having serious self-destructive thoughts, it's a wake-up call. Talk to a professional- your pastor, your doc, but do it now. It doesn't tend to get better, and it can get bad enough that you can loose all perspective and act on those suicidal thoughts. With treatment, you'll get you old self back. I've been there, and beleive me I know it feels. Email me if you need someone to talk with. I care.
toy264@swbell.net

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Dave 2N

01-31-2003 17:43:58




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
8NGuy-
First, get to your family doctor as soon as possible and tell him what's going on. He will check for physical issues and maybe refer you to someone for help. Try to avoid the drugs and chemicals as long as possible. Do you have a good, strong support network? Family? Wife? Friends? Any or all are of great importance to get through this. At the very least, you have the people on this forum to communicate with, so just keep talking.
Get the book "You Can Feel Good Again" by Richard Carlson. It's available at your local book store and helps you understand what is going on and how to deal with it.

I suggest these steps based on my personal experience with depression. It's a horrible disease but it can be treated and overcome. Good luck and don't wait to get help.

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genenky(8n450577)

01-31-2003 15:41:20




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
to answer your question. how many people out there have depresion. well a whole lot but like you said life goes on. i could tell ya some real horror stories about my life but i won't. believe me life is tooo precious to waste. enjoy every minute of it that you can gene n ky



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Ford Man

01-31-2003 15:06:12




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
8nguy,
Get some help as soon as you can ! You will be glad you did !!! I have a couple of family members who suffer from depression . I have seen the low , lows in both of them . One has been on medication for 20 years and lives a normal life without any depression related problems . The other will not seek help and is just misserable all of the time . Good help makes a huge difference .

Whatever you do , do not do anything to hurt yourself .

Keep us all posted . You are part of the "N" crowd and we care !

God Bless You ,
Ford Man

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Dennis N Tx....long

01-31-2003 14:47:41




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
8NGUY,

I here ya. Depression is real and it will get the best of any man. I am also suffering depression. I am now taking Paxil to help me. I suffered a panic attack while driving one day. My house had flooded and i was on the way to pick up a check that my company had donated to me. I was shaking, sweating and thought i was going to die. I pulled over and could not drive. I had co-workers pick me up and take me to the doctor. My blood pressure was 1??/115. I was given oxygen and calmed down. I was also going through divorce procedings with my wife at the time. Bills were pilling up. Couldn't get the wife to release insurance checks for repairs to the house. Alot went on...
We got back together and I found she was having an on-line affair. We divorced in December. She spent all my money. I now owe 40,000 to credit cards...they call everyday. She got the kids. I pay support now. I have had 2 hearniated?? disc in my lower back since before Christmas and I barely make it to work. I'm afraid of losing my job because I can't do what I need to be doing. My 8N is sitting in the barn with a flat tire and a broken lift arm. I can't even and don't feel like working on it. It has been cold/cloudy/rainy and just plain ol' depressing. Life goes on. I got a snail-mail today informing me that my oldest son (10) has been picked as one of the most talented poets in the USA. They want to publish his poem in hard and paperback book. This brings the joy of life. I don't mean to rattle on. But the sun came out today..warmed up..and I'm ok.
I read a good e-mail from a friend yesterday. I will get it and post under here...it is great.

Hang in there...

Dennis N Tx.
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Mike Schotte

02-01-2003 06:13:07




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 Re: Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to Dennis N Tx....long, 01-31-2003 14:47:41  
Dennis,

I'm sorry to hear about all of your recent troubles. I've seen your posts before- but I don't know where you are located in Texas. Please let me know if there's anything that I can do to help you out.

On a tractor related note- I've had to take the rear tire off my Case SC seven times so far in the last year- so I'm sure that I can help you lift yours (until my back goes, too.)

Thanks for sharing the life lesson from your friend- I hope you keep steppin' out of that well,

-Mike Schotte
Dallas, TX

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and here it is..Dennis N Tx... WTIME

01-31-2003 15:19:10




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 Re: Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to Dennis N Tx....long, 01-31-2003 14:47:41  
One day, a farmer’s donkey fell into a well. The animal cried for hours as the farmer tried to figure out what to do.

He decided the donkey was really old and not of much use anymore, and the well was dry and needed to be covered anyway. It just wasn’t worth it to retrieve the donkey.

The farmer invited all his neighbors to help him fill up the well with the poor donkey inside. They grabbed shovels and began shoveling dirt.

The donkey realized what was happening and cried horribly. Then, to the amazement of everyone, the donkey stopped crying. A few shovels later, the farmer looked into the well and was astonished by what he saw. The donkey was shaking off each shovel of dirt and stepping on top of the accumulating pile.

The farmer didn’t mention his findings to any of his kind neighbors, but they too were soon astonished by the animal’s feat. The donkey stepped over the edge of the well and trotted off.

I received this story in an e-mail from my mentor before I received my commission, and have received it twice from others I consider as mentors since being commissioned.

Coincidence? Depends on how you want to look at it -- either folks are running out of stories and jokes to forward, or someone sees the great moral in this story and wants to share it with me. I think it’s the latter.

The moral attached to the e-mail reads, “Life is going to shovel dirt on you -- all kinds of dirt. Each of our troubles is a stepping-stone. We can get out of the deepest wells by not stopping, never giving up. Shake it off and step up.”

For me, there is a lot more to the story.

The farmer wasn’t looking out for his donkey, because he let him fall into the well. This is obvious because he knew it was an old, empty well that needed to be filled. How often do we as supervisors, colleagues and friends let others fall into wells we know are there?

Everyone heard the pitiful cries of the donkey, but no one stopped to really listen. How often do we get so caught up in our day-to-day activities that we hear but do not listen to the cries of those around us?

How often do we take the easy way out? The farmer didn’t ask the neighbors to help him find a way to help the donkey; he simply asked them to help him get the problem off his hands.

How often do we just give up? More importantly, how often do we watch others give up without offering to support by just listening or giving a little advice? The donkey didn’t give up. He stopped crying and found a way out of the situation.

I learned a very long time ago that no matter what your position is in life, someone is always looking up to you. Everyone has a gift or talent, knowledge or experience of some kind, but some never share these with others.

Since I have been at Moody, my first duty station, I’ve had the opportunity to be a mentor and to be mentored. I have learned it isn’t always the person with the highest rank who knows everything, and the lowest-ranking person is never completely clueless.

We all have thoughts, ideas, stories and experiences that can motivate and inspire others.

This fictional story about a farmer and a donkey inspired me to think about the person I am and the kind of person I aspire to be.

It is because someone cared enough to share this story with me that I am able to share it with you. It’s one big cycle, and that is how being a mentor works.

By simply looking out for your mentorees and not letting them fall into wells; listening and not just hearing when they are crying out; helping them find solutions instead of putting the problem on someone else or taking the easy way out; sharing your experiences and not letting them give up; and passing along stories like these, you can give your troops something they can use that will last them a lifetime.

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Thanks for the reminder

02-01-2003 06:21:48




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 Re: Re: Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to and here it is..Dennis N Tx... WTIME, 01-31-2003 15:19:10  
Probably the best OT post on this board yet !!



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oslo in NC

01-31-2003 12:29:03




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
8nguy; Good advice has been given here. Please keep in touch with us. Contact someone by email if you just want to talk. Lots of us know, personally, what you are experiencing.

PS; This is not off topic, in my opinion.

God bless, oslo in NC



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HuskerJR

01-31-2003 10:20:12




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
My wife has battled it for the 12 years we have been together. It is nothing to take litely. She had tried to end her life twice...before she received help..now she leads basically a normal life. Get help! You church is a great place to start. I myself felt the black cloud of a real depression lowering on me several years ago. Turned out to be a chemical imbalance. Dr. told me to take good multi-vitamin everyday. That did the trick for me.....not for my wife. She is on meds.
Get Help.
God Bless

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ff316

01-31-2003 10:15:31




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
You really need to seek some help. You need to talk to someone badly. Look in your telephone book, there are probably help hotlines listed that you can call. If you are a religious person you can talk to your priest/minister/rabbi or whatever. I have seen the results of severe depression and they are not pretty. Some of the suggestions below, like activities, etc...are also good but do not delay inseeking help, you could do something you and your family regrets.

I know it is little consolation but we have all been through those tough years of early adulthood. I know it is difficult and you are confused about a lot of things. There are probably support groups online that can help you too.

Take care of yourself and your body, in the end it's all you have. Fireman

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Bob

01-31-2003 08:04:49




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
The fact that you realize it is a big step. Please contact some professional help, either counselor, family doctor, etc. One of the big causes of depression in the winter months is caused, believe it or not, by a lack of sunlight. It is called Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) and is treated in some cases by simply sitting in front of a "light box" which has the same light spectrum as the sun (minus the UV), others by drug therapy. In any case, please get help from someone. We need the young tractor guys around and in good spirits!

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nah...u guy dnt need the young'n's

01-31-2003 08:07:48




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 Re: Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to Bob, 01-31-2003 08:04:49  
nope....



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Mike OH

01-31-2003 07:55:48




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
Darren, I'm no doctor, but I can tell you that you are a very smart young lad and are going thru what many of us have experieced in our lives. Usually it is something that triggers these feelings and the best thing you can do is not to dwell on the thing that make you depressed and to seek out help, wether it is from parents, educators, clergy, or physicians. But whatever, you choose, do it NOW.
Take care and may God Bless.

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GregWis

01-31-2003 07:34:16




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
Hey 8NGuy. You are definity not alone. Nearly everyone either has had depression or a family member with it. You need to know that being depressed is not a result of a weakness in you character. It is a biochemical disease just like diabetes or other illnesses. There is no shame in being depressed...the shame is if a person doesnt seek help. Go see your family doctor or if you need help finding a good doc in you area email me and I will help you. There are good medications out there that can help you get your old life back. Remember this disease affects both you and your family and they need you around and functioning.

On a personal note my dad was depressed and felt much the same as you. After being on meds he is a new man, able to enjoy his grandchildren again.

Take care and let us know if we can help...you are not alone.

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Insidious disease

01-31-2003 07:27:01




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
It has to be the most insidious disease people have. it can be genetic, environmental, or a chemical imbalance in your body or a combination of all three. Dark and cold winter days, aloneness, and boredom don't help at all.

No one will come to your assistance unless you reach out for help and with someone who is a professional to help you sort through the cause and determine healing or therapy.

It's hard to know wether or not you're serious but with a message like that you can't assume all is ok.

Communities have social services for treatment and your college or university may have one if you are still a student.

learn about it and seek advice and counsel. Maybe you can help someone down the orad who has the same feelings as you. it is not easy.

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01-31-2003 07:16:24




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
...you are truly clinically depressed or have a serious bi-polar disorder, then you need to seek professional help. Everybody gets the blues, everybody gets depressed. Some of us maintain on psychotropic drugs prescribed by our doctors. Diet and exercise can affect your mental processes. One of the best remedies(not a cure)for depression is ACTION. Find a cause to believe in, or any worthwhile activity, especially when you focus on helping other people and do it!

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Mike B IL

01-31-2003 07:03:15




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
Depression happens to all of us. That is a part of life. It's what you do with it that matters! I have been a foster parent for over 17 years and I have seen and been in depression.
Please seek help! I hope that you beleve in God and would seek counsel through your local church.
Do not leave this unchecked or it will go through you like a cancer.
Please seek out help.
Feel free to E-Mail me and I will try to help.
I care,
Mike

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We all get it once in a while!!

01-31-2003 06:59:56




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 Re: OT Depression has gotten the best of me... in reply to 8nguy, 01-31-2003 06:53:01  
Nothing to be ashamed of. There are a lot of us who get depressed every once in a while. That is part of life. Just hang in there and look back at the good old days and more will come in the future. Signed A Outsider Looking In!



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