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paulo

02-08-2003 18:26:09




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My 8n started but it kills when I shift to any gear. Seems to be running rough, any ideas?




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Lyle (Sask)

02-11-2003 13:18:03




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 Re: Starting 8N in the Winter in reply to paulo, 02-08-2003 18:26:09  
Well two weeks ago was running my 2N for 5 hours with the mercury at -20 F.

1. Like others say gotta let it warm up (5 to 10 minutes hopefully partially sheltered from the wind. I stick the back end of mine just far enough out of the garage to allow for the exhaust to escape

2. Running Rough (May be air not getting through the oil bath air cleaner) My dad (Retired Farmer) suggests a switch to Lite transmission fluid for the oil bath in the winter, I put 0 W 30 oil in mine, and once I thawed out the ice cube I found in the mesh screen above the oil bath it ran much smoother..

Had the tractor outside with enough blowing snow I guess to cause a bunch of water to condense and freeze in the air intake system.

Running in the very cold temps I'll notice that my tractor will start to surge and lose power as the carb begins to ice... If I stop the tractor with the Carb out of the wind and let it run at a fast idle for 10 or 15 minutes I'll get enough thermal transfer off of the block heat to thaw er out for some more running time ...

If you don't have it, I think that Ford actually had a fan which ran in the reverse direction and draws air from the radiator and pulls it back over the engine for winter, rather than trying draw the air off the engine, and push it out through the radiator for summer cooling ...

Might want to try and find a winter fan at a swap meet.

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Will (MN)

02-09-2003 09:04:06




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 Re: Starting 8N in the Winter in reply to paulo, 02-08-2003 18:26:09  
I've run my '49 8N at below zero many days (and nights) moving snow and wood around. Mine has been converted to 12v and never had a starting problem. I don't have power to the shed, so no heat is available. I have my clutch blocked open, let it run about 5-10 minutes and then am able to head out to work. I have not broken anything yet. ( I do use reverse first- for safety) I'm running 5w30 oil, year around.

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one thing==bj/8n/mt

02-09-2003 05:47:54




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 Re: Starting 8N in the Winter in reply to paulo, 02-08-2003 18:26:09  
The one thing I do to help my six volt 8ns through Montana winters is I put a dip stick heater in the three point the night before I plan to use it. Makes a world of difference and lets me use the PTO as soon as it fires.

Your mileage may vary



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Dave OH

02-08-2003 21:52:58




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 Re: Starting 8N in the Winter in reply to paulo, 02-08-2003 18:26:09  
Dick has that right. My brother-in-law asked why he had to keep the clutch in to start his tractor in the winter. Well as Dick said if the clutch is out the hydrolic system is running (if engaged) and he has mineral oil in his hydrolic system. It is like molasis in the cold (very thick).
And there is no direct heat transfeer from the engine to heat it.
Dave OH



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DickTN

02-08-2003 19:14:33




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 Re: Starting 8N in the Winter in reply to paulo, 02-08-2003 18:26:09  
Just a thought. These old girls are cold-blooded. You have to let them warm up for a while before you try to move. There is no direct carburetor heat as there is on cars. Also, your hydraulic oil is probably thick due to cold. You might want to try turning off your PTO to see if things change when you try to go. When you turn off the PTO, you also turn off the hydraulic pump.



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paulo

02-09-2003 03:51:30




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 Re: Re: Starting 8N in the Winter in reply to DickTN, 02-08-2003 19:14:33  
Thank's I'll double check to see if my pto is off.
It's -17 now so I think I'll also wait for warmer weather. I didn't have any trouble when it was 25 out but I suppose there is a big difference. Do I need to worry about breaking anything when it's this cold?



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DickTN

02-09-2003 04:50:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Starting 8N in the Winter in reply to paulo, 02-09-2003 03:51:30  
Well now, that's an interesting question. As you know, metal tends to get brittle at very low temperatures. Never done any research on this, so I don't know if -17 is a problem. Also, rubber doesn't care much about flexing at low temps, so tires could be a problem, too. Dell posted something a while back relative to making your first move in reverse when starting out so that, in the event that your tires are frozen into the ground, you don't flip yourself over backwards. Good advice. Personally, at -17 I'd stay in the house and let the tractor stay in the shed. Frostbite is not a lot of fun. DickTN

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