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ashby

02-12-2003 10:12:14




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What is a reasonable rate/hour to pay a professional sandblaster for services. I've always used a cabinet which I had access to but it takes quite a while.




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Dan (Myersville)

02-12-2003 14:35:12




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 Re: Sand Blasting in reply to ashby, 02-12-2003 10:12:14  
I don't have any info on rates but I would like to mention that sand blast nozzles for power washers are readily available for less than $100.
I intend to invest in one come spring and use it to blast the rear half of my 9N along with the sheet metal. The front has already been cleaned as part of an engine rebuild. Anybody have any experience using one of these rigs? I have another machine and several implements that need to be "detailed" and this sounds like a great way handle large pieces.

Dan

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Dave Smith

02-12-2003 17:02:37




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 Re: Re: Sand Blasting in reply to Dan (Myersville), 02-12-2003 14:35:12  
I think this is the one Willy N uses. He has spoken highley of it. I just ordered one.
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dave

02-15-2003 20:16:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Sand Blasting in reply to Dave Smith, 02-12-2003 17:02:37  
I have used one for probably over 20 years for sure and like it real well, The big advantage is on sheet metal--it will not warp it at all. The disadvantage is the sand will cling a little more. (like a cup under the dash etc.) But the price is right if a little more rinse off is needed. A disadvantage is your face shield gets wet and is harder to see.



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Mike S

02-13-2003 06:14:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Sand Blasting in reply to Dave Smith, 02-12-2003 17:02:37  
Just for info. I went to Northern last weekend and they were selling those power washer sandblaster things for 5 bucks each. I bought two. I asked if they were discontinuing them and the lady said that is usually the reason for the low price but she wasn't sure. I might get another one for my neighbor.



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Dave Smith, Did you

02-13-2003 09:18:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand Blasting in reply to Mike S, 02-13-2003 06:14:00  
Have to tell me that right after I paid $50 for one? Are you sure it is the same thing? Ill give you $10 and pay shipping.
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Mike S

02-13-2003 18:07:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand Blasting in reply to Dave Smith, Did you, 02-13-2003 09:18:59  
Yep, I checked the number to the one in the catalog and it matched. I would guess all the Northerns would have them on sale. I might go there tomorrow and see if they have any left.



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MikeC

02-12-2003 16:06:52




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 Re: Re: Sand Blasting in reply to Dan (Myersville), 02-12-2003 14:35:12  
I think that Willy N has that type of power washer/sand blaster. I'm also considering buying one. If you don't see him posting around here you can go to the Power Wagon forum at the link below and yell at him.



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Willy-N

02-13-2003 06:41:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Sand Blasting in reply to MikeC, 02-12-2003 16:06:52  
I'm still here just can't talk about the Power Wagon I am working on here. I like the water/sand blaster I have works great and no dust to breath in when using it. Mark H.



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Upper Peninsula, Mich

02-13-2003 07:42:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand Blasting in reply to Willy-N, 02-13-2003 06:41:52  
Willy. I have a small electric washer. Can the sand blaster work on a small low, about 1600 lb. pressure washer? I also have access to a gas operated about 4,000 lb pressure washer. Ron



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Dan (Myersville)

02-13-2003 08:41:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand Blasting in reply to Upper Peninsula, Mich, 02-13-2003 07:42:14  
Seems to me 1600 PSI water @ 2 GPM full of (cheap) grit has to be pretty effective. I wouldn't put my hand in the stream without the grit! My air compressor's no match for my 3200 PSI @ 3 GPM pressure washer. I also like the "dustless" description from Willy. Blasting small parts without a cabinet is a mess, can't even think what kind of mess you'd have after blasting the whole arse end of a N. I'll have to check out the 5$ Northern outfit. The ones I've seen from the Industrial supply houses start round $25 and up. Of course, it's a little too cold for using this kind of a rig outside at my place right now...

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bg

02-12-2003 13:50:18




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 Re: Sand Blasting in reply to ashby, 02-12-2003 10:12:14  
I charge $15-25/hr plus fuel and sand. 2 hour minimum. Why not rent a blaster and have at it?



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capt jack

02-12-2003 12:04:37




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 Re: Sand Blasting in reply to ashby, 02-12-2003 10:12:14  
crispy is correct. Yet we have all forgotten the most important thing..WEAR SAFETY GOGGLES....
it is hard plowing in braile.....



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Crispy

02-12-2003 11:06:40




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 Re: Sand Blasting in reply to ashby, 02-12-2003 10:12:14  
Another alternate method is to buy a wheel. This wheel is made up of many hair like bristles. It attaches on the end of your right angle grinder. Man does this baby remove the rust. And fast. I love it. It goes as fast as if you were painting only in reverse. Cost/ $15.00 I did my hood, and grill, took around 2hrs.
Crispy MN



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capt jack

02-12-2003 10:55:41




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 Re: Sand Blasting in reply to ashby, 02-12-2003 10:12:14  
We have a blasting room here at the shop. We only charge for cost of media (sand, etc) and $25.00 per hour with a 2 hour minimum. When working on tender surfaces we use 180 grit. This leaves you with a finish that is ready to paint without and further work. We also use walnut shells when there is a bunch of rust or 80 grit when we have to cut away sections of the vehicle which is rusted beyond reasonable repair. I dont know where you are located but I do know that in the northern states the charges are almost out of site..good luck
capt jack

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duey

02-12-2003 10:37:28




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 Re: Sand Blasting in reply to ashby, 02-12-2003 10:12:14  
This doesn't answer your question, but I used a black 3M "Oatmeal cookie" on my drill to remove the paint from the hood assembly and fenders. Clean bright and deburred is how it ended up. In less than two hours. Now the inside of the fenders and hood weren't particularly bad, in my case. The 'oatmeal cookie' is a coated Scotch-brite material and works excellent for cleaning gasketed faces and area. Available at most auto parts store for less than $10. As always, no one thing is all things to everything. duey

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MikeC

02-12-2003 10:25:05




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 Re: Sand Blasting in reply to ashby, 02-12-2003 10:12:14  
When I repainted my 2N, I took the hood, dog legs, grill, seat, fenders, rear wheel centers and front rims to a blasting company that uses plastic media. I'm sure they spent 2+ hours on it and only charged $200 (which for the amount of grunge that was on everything I thought was well worth the price). The finish was real nice and I only had to lightly sand it, clean the dust off then paint it.



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ashby

02-12-2003 17:18:28




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 Re: Re: Sand Blasting in reply to MikeC, 02-12-2003 10:25:05  
Thanks for the suggestions. I have used a twisted wire cup, wire wheel, and 3M wheel. All are very good. I do like the sand blaster for all those hard to reach places I simply can't get with a wheel. I actually enjoy sandblasting the stuff in the cabinet, it is just pretty slow and with two under 3 years old, time is really at a minimum right now. Thanks again.



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