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RoN of ohio

02-17-2003 07:20:54

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Two Dawgs (re:radiator cap, post near bottom of page) asked a question about removing the hood to install points and plugs. I was just wandering if anyone had ever tried to install some sort of hinge system on the front to make a 'one-man' hood raising possible. I tried to just leave those two front bolts in, but loosened, but the dash board prevented the hood from raising. Do any of you have a good method of removing this cumbersome and heavy hood that I am not aware of. I did think about installing a block and tackle in the rafters of the barn, but it seemed like overkill. Thanks for any comments...Ron

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Steve (Magnolia, TX)

02-18-2003 12:46:34

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Re: hood removal in reply to RoN of ohio, 02-17-2003 07:20:54

OK... Now y'all got me wonderin' what my 8N is missing...
I just pulled the hood off, yesterday (by myself). It's cumbersome, sure. It'd have been easier with help, but it's not really heavy...
Granted I've not put my headlights back on... maybe that's it?

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MikeC

02-17-2003 10:50:22

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Re: hood removal in reply to RoN of ohio, 02-17-2003 07:20:54

Removing the hood should be such a rare event that I'm sort of unclear why you would want to make some major modifications just to do it. In order to do what you want you will need to:

1. Redesign the fuel tank support so it no longer is attached and supported by the hood. The fuel tank can't tilt with the hood or the fuel will spill out the loose fuel cap or vent hole.

2. Modify the dash/steering wheel area so the tilting hood won't hit the steering wheel on the way up. There will also need to be a quick release system so you don't have to hassle with unbolting it from the dash.

3. Move/modify the radiator neck so it won't catch on the opening hood.

4. Fabricate a hinge system that will support the hood normally as well as in the tilted position.

5. Modify the air intake and filter if it extends above or interferes with the hood.

This sounds like quite a bit of work for something that you might need to do only once every few years. Other than accessing the fuel tank or making major engine repairs, I can't think of anything that would make me remove the hood.

Of course, if you have lots of time on your hands and like to fabricate stuff like that, it might be fun.

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Dave Smith, This is how I remove mine

02-17-2003 09:11:11

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Re: hood removal in reply to RoN of ohio, 02-17-2003 07:20:54

Works well, I can do it alone with no problems.
Dave <*)))><
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Snowplow

02-17-2003 09:20:02

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Re: Re: hood removal in reply to Dave Smith, This is how I remove mine, 02-17-2003 09:11:11

Wow. Great looking machine. But why were you taking the hood of in the first place?

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Dave Smith

02-17-2003 09:24:22

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Re: Re: Re: hood removal in reply to Snowplow, 02-17-2003 09:20:02

When I redid the 8N, I could not find the right fan schroud for it. Willy N found one for me and I installed it. This lift works great in the shop but I wish it had larger wheels. I have found nothing now that I can't do alone.
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Snowplow

02-17-2003 09:40:15

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Re: Re: Re: Re: hood removal in reply to Dave Smith, 02-17-2003 09:24:22

And to think I just muckled on to that bear and set it on a pair of saw horses!

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Dave Smith

02-17-2003 09:56:57

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: hood removal in reply to Snowplow, 02-17-2003 09:40:15

As you get older, You have to figure out ways to do things easyer.
Dave <*)))><

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RoN of ohio

02-17-2003 11:10:07

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: hood removal in reply to Dave Smith, 02-17-2003 09:56:57

Amen. Ron

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JD in SC

02-17-2003 08:00:44

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Re: hood removal in reply to RoN of ohio, 02-17-2003 07:20:54

That's one place ole Ferguson has us beat. Hood on Ferguson looks just like mine, but hinges forward.
JD

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RoN of ohio

02-17-2003 08:11:46

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Re: Re: hood removal in reply to JD in SC, 02-17-2003 08:00:44

Thanks. I will look at the next Fergie that I see and see if their hinge system will fit my '9'. With a little 'riggin' and maneuvering. I'll bet it would work. Do you have a Fergison by chance?

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Dell (WA)

02-17-2003 10:14:25

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Re: Re: Re: hood removal in reply to RoN of ohio, 02-17-2003 08:11:46

Ron..... ...the reason the Fergie hood hinge scheme works is because the gas tank is NOT mounted to the underside of the hood like the N-Tank is..... ..Dell

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RayOh

02-17-2003 09:35:57

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Re: Re: Re: hood removal in reply to RoN of ohio, 02-17-2003 08:11:46

Ron,Where Are You At In Ohio?Im East Of Ashland & Have A 1950 TE20 Fergy & The Hood Tilts Forward.

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RoN of ohio

02-17-2003 11:18:34

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Re: Re: Re: Re: hood removal in reply to RayOh, 02-17-2003 09:35:57

I live in Dayton, but my tractor is on a small farm in southern Ohio. I'm going to check out the Fergy's at the 'Old Timer's Tractor show" in Xenia this fall. I had to remove my hood several times for various things when I first got the 'n', but haven't had to remove it for some time now and it's not that critical that I need to worry about it now. However, I appreciate all the help that this forum has given me. Ron

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soundguy

02-17-2003 07:50:16

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Re: hood removal in reply to RoN of ohio, 02-17-2003 07:20:54

The hood is a bear. I just got dfinished rebuilding my steering box, and had to remove/replace the hood... Very hard for one person. I was using block and tackle to pull the hood up via the rafters in the barn, then had the wife help me pull it to the side to lower it. On reinstall, I pushed the tractor out of the barn and drove my 1920 into the barn with the boom pole and picked up the hood. Then used the boom to set the hood on the 8n. Took quite a few adjustments off an on the tractor.. back up an inch.. an inch more... move this, move that.. but went on much easier than came off. I would suggest anyone doing this by them selves get a block and tackle setup, or another tractor with a boom pole.... or just get a neighbor to help.

Soudguy

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Dell (WA)

02-17-2003 07:42:54

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Re: hood removal in reply to RoN of ohio, 02-17-2003 07:20:54

Ron..... ....you don't want to "hinge" your hood. You'll spill all the gas outta the attached 10 gal gas tank. Yep, it ain't eazy removing the N-Hood by yer selfs, just awkward as all get out. Get help, very eazy for 2 people..... ..Dell

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Barnstormer

02-17-2003 07:39:28

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Re: hood removal in reply to RoN of ohio, 02-17-2003 07:20:54

One person can get it off but it is not ergo friendly. Be sure the fuel tank is empty, lift front slightly above the radiator and grasp sides of hood under edge as far back as you can reach then lift off of dash panel and tractor.
Most of the time I get one of my sons to help, one of us on each side.
Once (and only once) I tossed a rope over a roof truss. One end went under the fuel tank as far forward as I could get it. The other end I made a loop and had it around my wife's hips. I lifted, she just provided tension on the rope.
It worked but she is no longer cooperative. grin

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capt jack

02-17-2003 07:39:25

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Re: hood removal in reply to RoN of ohio, 02-17-2003 07:20:54

I must be lost..You don't remove the hood to change points. On a front mount dist, like mine, you just remove the dist, cleant it and then install the new points, condenser, and reinstall the dist. On side dist, you just do it right there. Never have to remove hood. Front mount cant be put in wrong.
I don't know of any one who has hinges. I have a set of lifting straps and hook them to my overhead chain falls, and remove the hood.
good luck.

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RoN of ohio

02-17-2003 08:08:41

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Re: Re: hood removal in reply to capt jack, 02-17-2003 07:39:25

Sorry Capn. I guess I wasn't very clear about why I would be removing the hood. Two Dogs(in a post below)was asking about removing it to change plugs and points. I only wandered if it were possible to install some hinges that would lift the hood high enough to clear the radiator filler and swing it forward so that other things, that you might want to remove the hood for, might be done by one person. My wife has arthritus so bad that she cannot help and there are no neighbors very close. It just seems to me that it could be done very easily with some sort of hinge setup and I was looking for ideas. Thanks..Ron

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