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I cant believe there is so much condensation,

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pat

02-17-2003 18:53:56




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In my 9n, I was going to start plowing early this morning, well not that early,, but anyway, started the tractor, let warm up as usual, and was pulling out of the barn, and the blade would not lift, slow and jerky,, finally came up SLOWW then would not go down, back in the barn, after 3 hrs of playing with it, I took off the inspection plate and there was slush on the top of the oil, started the wood stove, put on a salamander, finally had to work the control lever by hand inside the transmission, we all know how small the opening is , put on top of that the size of my hands and man what a pain, finnaly got it to work, and worked the rest of the day, but I never did think that much condesation could build up, I keep it in the barn most of the time, and hardly ever in the weather and rain.. I have to change the oil again but could not do it today with all the snow in Ny,, how often do you guys change your hyd oil? I just did mine less than a yr ago, oh well, sorry so long, hope everyone is plowed out, we still have more to do in the morning,,, already have alot
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02-18-2003 09:20:36




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 Re: I cant believe there is so much condensation, in reply to pat, 02-17-2003 18:53:56  
I couldn't say why the slush was on top but I was able to take it out by the hand full?? the bottom half of the oil was COLD but not slushy and frozen , I have a new boot on the transmission, it has been there since the last time I changed the oil, the question is also that the oil is not milky like the first time I changed it, it is the same color as new?? I did have it out in the cold for about a week, but no snow to talk about, I was splitting wood wioth her,, I use this every day almost, well more than half the days in the week it gets used,so it does not sit for very long with out being used, This was the first time I had these problems with it, I am changing the oil today anyway, but could not do it yestreday, it worked fine for 4+ hrs of heavy work yesterday, thanks for all the help, . pat

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2fordsmike...condensation, who knows?

02-18-2003 14:41:53




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 Re: Re: I cant believe there is so much condensation, in reply to pat reply, 02-18-2003 09:20:36  
Condensation? Suspect it varies greatly (1) by geography (2)use of tractor and (3) where you store the rig. The greatest condensation in a tractor would take place in a humid state,in a tractor used for many short chores that take 20-30 minutes, where the tractor is stored in the lower level of a barn built into a sidehill or in a barn or shed that also houses livestock. We didn't experience this problem (much) 50 years ago when we used these Fords for daily farm work even in the winter, and then in the growing season we worked them week after week. I think condensation may be a greater problem with our acreage and hobby Fords. Mike-Iowa

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chuck paras

02-18-2003 07:45:20




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 Re: I cant believe there is so much condensation, in reply to pat, 02-17-2003 18:53:56  
pat, If you keep your tractor out of the rain and work it periodically to heat it up there should not be any water in your hydro fluid. I keep my 51 8N under a carport type structure and use it regularly-just yesterday for several hours pushing 9-10inches of snow/sleet-heavy stuff. My proof-o-meter chalks up 25-40 hours per year. The key to dry fluid is heating it up good periodically and having a good shifter boot. I haven't changed my hydro oil in 10 years and it still looks clean and it is not milky.

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change that oil NOW . . . Dell (WA)

02-17-2003 23:45:17




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 Re: I cant believe there is so much condensation, in reply to pat, 02-17-2003 18:53:56  
Pat..... ..guess what ice can do to your hydraulic pump? $$$$$$ Change it NOW and pray. Letter drain for long time, get a heater underitt.

Don't know how you got so much water, bad leaky tranny shifter rubber boot? Replace it $3 cheap. Boil it in hot watter and make it soft to stretch over everything..... ....Dell



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DickTN

02-17-2003 19:14:03




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 Re: I cant believe there is so much condensation, in reply to pat, 02-17-2003 18:53:56  
Pat, Your description makes me real curious. The last time I looked, water was heavier than oil. How you managed to get slush(ice?) on TOP of the oil mystifies me, particularly since you apparently keep the tractor in a barn. Sorry I can't help diagnose your problem, but I think you have found a way to cancel the laws of physics.



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Bill 52 8n

02-17-2003 22:04:18




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 Re: Re: I cant believe there is so much condensation, in reply to DickTN, 02-17-2003 19:14:03  
Ice floats on water cause its less dense. Perhaps ice is less dense than hydro oil as well.?

Bill



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DickTN

02-18-2003 07:15:26




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 Re: Re: Re: I cant believe there is so much condensation, in reply to Bill 52 8n, 02-17-2003 22:04:18  
Bill, That's an interesting point which I had not considered. The specific gravity of water is 1.0 and ice is about 0.8, I think. Oil is somewhere around 0.7 so ice should sink in oil. However, those are all theoretical numbers based on more or less pure water, ice and oil without any entrained air. The hydro oil is almost for sure "whipped cream" and carrying all sorts of contaminants, so my comment probably has no merit. You are probably a whole lot closer to the truth than I am. Think I threw fingers in gear before brain was turning over (again). Sorry.

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DickTN

02-17-2003 19:13:43




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 Re: I cant believe there is so much condensation, in reply to pat, 02-17-2003 18:53:56  
Pat, Your description makes me real curious. The last time I looked, water was heavier than oil. How you managed to get slush(ice?) on TOP of the oil mystifies me, particularly since you apparently keep the tractor in a barn. Sorry I can't help diagnose your problem, but I think you have found a way to cancel the laws of physics.



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