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3 breakdowns in 1 day

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Andy

02-18-2003 19:58:04




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Today I had three breakdowns in one day, all were related to repairs I had made to the tractor recently. My tractor is a 48 8n front mount. I just had 40 tons of granite delivered to spread in my side yard in preparation for my wife and my tenth anniversary party. I was getting ready to use my dirt scoop to move it around, and when putting my dirt scoop on I pinched my thumb on the top link pin. After some colorful laguage I got the scoop on and moved a couple of scoop fulls and then my 3 point would not lift any more. Drove it over to the garage and pulled the inspection plate off, burned my hand on the hot muffler, and discovered oil spraying up from the top of the valve plugs on the hydraulic pump. I found that the cap screw that holds down the valve clamp was loose. I snugged it up and it appears to have solved the problem. Is this an acceptable repair or is it masking another problem? BTW I had just changed the hydraulic oil, it had 90w oil in it I replaced it with m2c 134d. So here I am with Hydraulics that work again moving more dirt. I have a scoop full and am back up to dump it and my tractor starts spitting water and sounding like it is very hot. I just put in a thermostat as I discovered it did not have one previously. So back to the garage to check this out. I ended up draining the coolant in order to remove the thermostat to inspect it for proper operation. In doing so I found that my radiator has a lot of crud in it and needs to be rodded out, so I removed the stat and refilled the cooling system. I am not pleased with that fix but I need to get that granite out of the way. When I moved the tractor to the garage for the cooling problem I turned the key off and the tractor kept on running happily as if I had not done a thing. I have a converted 12 volt system with a delco alternator, I forget the number but it is the three wire one. I found that I have to disconnect the sense wire, the one with the resistor or the idiot light in it, in order to get the tractor to stop. I figured my resistor had gone bad so I replaced it with another identical one to no avail. Since that did't work I tried putting in a 12v light bulb, the idiot light. That didn't work either. So them I connected the two resistors in a series and that seemed to do the job. I had, about a week ago put on the right size belt 5/8" as it had a skinny belt on it. With the skinny belt the single resistor worked fine. I am guessing that the skinny belt slipping kept my alternator output lower making the resistor I had in it work well, and when I fixed the belt my output went up and overcame my resistor keeping my tractor electrical system live. Do these sound like reasonable assumtions? and does this seem like a good repair? Sorry for the long post, Andy

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ashby

02-19-2003 11:36:01




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 Re: 3 breakdowns in 1 day in reply to Andy, 02-18-2003 19:58:04  
When that happens to me (which it sometimes does) I try to imagine how long it would take me to do the following:

1. Complete the job by hand.
or
2. Pay for a new tractor that will not break down as much.

I do enjoy fixing repairs as I learn something each time that happens. Even if I don't apply the educational cost to the previous problem, I think I'm still coming out on top. :-)

Hope your event goes well. Denton

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Ohiosteve

02-19-2003 05:22:22




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 Re: 3 breakdowns in 1 day in reply to Andy, 02-18-2003 19:58:04  
I have to agree with -yes I've been there- . I
am lucky in that I have my 2N and a much newer
Jap tractor(Ford 1510). The 2N is a treat to operate but when you want consistent reliability
the 1510 is the way to go. I know that this is an
old arguement but I cannot figure out why anyone
converts their N's to 12v. My 2N has started
immediately in the coldest weather on 6v.



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raytasch

02-19-2003 04:34:28




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 Re: 3 breakdowns in 1 day in reply to Andy, 02-18-2003 19:58:04  
Andy, It has always been my belief that the reliability of a machine was determined on the drawing board. Once that piece of machinery was put into use its life is largely determined by quality of the repairs and maintainence. A machine that is poorly designed will not last long in the "real world". The Ns have been around for a fair length of time; they are, it seems to me, a pretty good unit. Sure they have a few design problems but when maintained well they work well. Problems are, many of them have been abused, neglected, and modified. Biggest problems with Ns is the inability or unwillingness of folks to do correct maint. Welcome back. ray

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Yes, I've been there,

02-18-2003 21:05:29




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 Re: 3 breakdowns in 1 day in reply to Andy, 02-18-2003 19:58:04  
Andy,

If'n you think that a "N" will cure all of your problems, you are mistaken. I love my 9 "N", still, it will not replace a modern tractor. I will get "flamed" for this, but it is true. For all of the "hulla-ballou" regarding the the newer jap tractors, they start everytime and perform their chores. 'nuff said'.

Yes, Ive been there



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Mountainman

02-19-2003 11:12:18




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 Re: Re: 3 breakdowns in 1 day in reply to Yes, I've been there,, 02-18-2003 21:05:29  
"For all of the "hulla-ballou" regarding the the newer jap tractors, they start everytime and perform their chores."

Well, what would you expect? The orange ones sure look like a copy of the N Fords to me - with all the improvements and additions technology and metalurgy have allowed.

N - joy.

Mountainman...CA



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DickTN

02-18-2003 20:06:24




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 Re: 3 breakdowns in 1 day in reply to Andy, 02-18-2003 19:58:04  
Son, I don't know whether your repairs are good or not, but I do know you are the luckiest son-of-a gun around. If it wasn't for bad luck, you wouldn't have no luck at all. Hope you get your granite spread without more problems.



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