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Rob

03-15-2003 21:15:24




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ignorance is not bliss!

If I buy an 8N without a bushhog and loader can I find these easily? Does the hog or loader have to be made especially for the 8N or can you buy new universal ones that fit the tractor? What if I ever need to rent an auger? Should I even consider using a loader on an 8N??

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Bruce (VA)

03-16-2003 16:26:27




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 Re: how do I get implements for 8N?? in reply to Rob, 03-15-2003 21:15:24  
Rob, I've got a 50 & 51 8N. The '51 has a Freeman loader. It probably was installed new from the factory, as it has 6.00 x 16 front tires, wheel weights and a Sherman transmission. Like everyone else is telling you, if you have a lot of loader work to do, the 8N will make a man out of you or kill you in the process, as it has no power steering. The Freeman loader has no down pressure and the bucket dumps by a trip lever. I only use the 51 for bucket work, and not much of that. Driving the 50 N compared to the '51 with the loader is the difference between my pickup and the wifes Infiniti! Think about a rear scoop ($150 -$200 used) and see if that will suit your needs.

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Ole Henry - (Va)

03-16-2003 07:07:28




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 Re: how do I get implements for 8N?? in reply to Rob, 03-15-2003 21:15:24  
Rob, finding the implements is, for me at least, one of the most fun things about owning an N. Check out local farm auctions. You don't always find what you want every-time, but every now and then theres just what you are looking for. Occasionally, nobody else wants it, not often but sometimes you get a steal. It's exciting to bid against the other guy, but be careful, you can get caught up in the moment and pay to much. Know what the "new" price of the item is and shoot for about 1/2 or less. If its in really good condition, or something you really, really, really, gotta have maybe a little more. As Dell says, You can save a lotta money by being 2nd highest bidder. Also, unless you just want new implements, the older ones usually still have many years of use, and in most cases, were better built than the new ones.

"Auction Shopping" is fun.

My opinion,

John A.

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Rich,NJ

03-16-2003 06:12:01




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 Re: how do I get implements for 8N?? in reply to Rob, 03-15-2003 21:15:24  
Rob, After reading the foregoing and you still want a loader, Let me fill you in on some of what you should have. Front Wheels, Ford sent their factory loader models out with 16X6.50 tires on then, not the standard 19" versions. The pump drive, The loader models have a special front engine pulley with four holes in it to engage the hyd. pump for the loader. These are still available new. To install this pulley you'll have to disassemble the front end of the tractor, including the axle. You will need a hole in your grill where the hand crank goes thru to accomdate this shaft.Here and there you will see this shaft referred to as the "stinger". It sticks out a couple of inches from the grill. Once you install it , You will not want to take it off if you remove the loader for other jobs. The stinger is there for the duration. Your head lights may have to come off. Mine has a Davis loader and it was shipped with out headlights. This may not be true of the Dearborn models. To remove my loader, it requires a crane or some way of lifting it high enough to clear the front wheels. I'd estimate the total weight, with out the bucket, at about half a ton. Because of all this weight levering the front wheels down and the rear wheels up, You'll need calcium in your rear wheels AND a counterweight. Again , this may not be true of the Dearborn models, which appear to be somewhat lighter. I hope this helps. Rich

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MikeC

03-16-2003 04:04:36




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 Re: how do I get implements for 8N?? in reply to Rob, 03-15-2003 21:15:24  
Rob,
You can get implements for the N's practically anywhere that implements are sold. You just want to make sure that the implement is for a tractor with a Cat 1 3 point hitch.

Most non-PTO powered items such as a backblade are just hook up and go. Something that is PTO powered may require that the shaft on the implememt be adjusted to fit (length) the first time you use it. That may take all of 10 minutes.

Just make sure that any implememts are within the limits of your N. I have a loader for mine, and leave it off unless I need it. If I did a lot of loader work I would find a more suitable tractor. But I only use it once or twice a year so it suits me fine. You might find that a rear scoop might be a better investment.

Good Luck!

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Fast Ed Ohio

03-15-2003 22:33:38




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 Re: how do I get implements for 8N?? in reply to Rob, 03-15-2003 21:15:24  
I would forget the front loader , I had one , just to hard to steer, that 3 point hitch and power takeoff will handel most of your needs, mowing, plowing, discing, posthole diging, scoop to move dirt and gravel around , back blade to plow snow and level dirt and gravel .Fifty year old tractors need a lot of T L C , its your dollar, some would go with a newer unit that has power steering, live pto and more hp .

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Dell (WA)

03-15-2003 21:44:27




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 Re: how do I get implements for 8N?? in reply to Rob, 03-15-2003 21:15:24  
Rob..... ....they say that in the N-Tractor's hay-day, that there were over 400 implements to fit it.

Any catagory-1, implement will fit, afterall, N's set the standards and ASAE took over the 3-point specs after the 9N's patents expired.

I'm not a fan of frontend loaders on N-Tractors. The front axle really isn't that strong. That said, theres alotta N's with FEL's out there. But most will admidt that without power steering, they're a armfull. But if thats whatcha gotts, and if'n you just gotta have a FEL, then ya putts up withitt. Myself, if'n I need abuncha FEL, I go rent one.

BTW, N-Tractors don't do roto-tiller, they're too high ground speed, they're 2-bottom plowin' fools howsomevers.

A good N-Tractor 3-point will lift about 750 lbs before the frontwheels start flappin' in the breeze, but they don't do round haybales spears, most round haybales weigh +1000#..... ....Dell

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jim

03-16-2003 06:37:00




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 Re: Re: how do I get implements for 8N?? in reply to Dell (WA), 03-15-2003 21:44:27  
I might add to the advice already given to remember that the original pto shaft is smaller than the standard to-day. Also, when using pto powered implements, use an over-running pto coupler. I believe you can get an O.R.C.with the original pto input combined with the now standard out-put shaft. Definately a must when bush-hoging.



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