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R.M. In AL

03-19-2003 21:09:34




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Hey fellas I am building a very small barn,just large enough for an N and a riding mower and a small working area. Only about 450 sq.ft.I have always used Shoplights in my buildings because you can buy them at Walmarts for about $7.99.In cold weather they perform poorly.I was just wondering what would be a good type of light to use that is resonable in price and where do I need to go look at them.I need plenty of white light with these old eyes..Thanks for the Info...R.M. In AL

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Upper Peninsula,Mich

03-20-2003 19:27:54




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 Re: Barn/Lights in reply to R.M. In AL, 03-19-2003 21:09:34  
Hi R.M. All very good suggestions depending on where and how you operate. My aging eyes needed just a little more help, so I added two sets of two spots over the work bench. Don't use them all the time, but being adjustable, they eliminate any shadows and assist these old eyes. Also they can be focused on the garage floor when additional light is necessary. My pull out, reel in, trouble light on a 20' cord is also handy. Ron

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BS@ElmaNY

03-20-2003 09:05:39




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 Re: Barn/Lights in reply to R.M. In AL, 03-19-2003 21:09:34  
Personally, I prefer the high-pressure sodium lights over the mercury-vapor lights. I'm talking about those "yard lights."

The HP sodium lights use less electricity than the MV lights. The HP sodiums do take a couple of minutes to warm up, but then put out a nice, mellow-yellow light that I prefer over the bright-white of the MV lights.

That yellow HP sodium light is preferred by my neighbors as they say that our other neighbors's bright MV lights shine in their windows at night.

We have one of those HP sodium lights mounted up high in our barn and it works very well. If we need additional light anywhere (task lighting), plain old 100 watt bulbs in those regular ceiling-mount fictures (use to be ceramic but now are usually plastic) work well. You can put in those Phillips brand halogen bulbs to save money if you plan to operate the bulbs for extended periods of time.

The guy who's working on my barn also recommended those cheapy "halogen work lights" that have the bright halogen lamps in them. You see these for 5-6 dollars some times at discount hardware stores. They come with stands some times. He says he has some hooked up to a motion detector in his barn, so they come on right away when he enters. He then can switch on the sodium lamps. When they warm up, he shuts off the bright haolgen lamps if he doesn't need so much light. It depends on what he's doing whether or not he leaves on the bright halogen lights.

Just my 2¢.

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Snowplow

03-20-2003 06:42:53




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 Re: Barn/Lights in reply to R.M. In AL, 03-19-2003 21:09:34  
A number of well spaced traditionals with high watt bulbs will light up the space good. And if you have several of them they won't cast too many shadows. Also very cheap. In an area you describe 2 100 watt bulbs, one on each end should throw a lot of light. You may want to consider something else directly over a work bench



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DallasGa

03-20-2003 06:22:10




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 Re: Barn/Lights in reply to R.M. In AL, 03-19-2003 21:09:34  
Ha R.M. Don't know what part of Al. you're located,but I'm in NW GA and it's very seldem cold enough to keep the elcheapos in my barn from working. Seams like it has to be below 45 or so.I use a kerosine heater to knock of the chill. For the most part the lites work better in the cold than my hands do,so I don't spend to many winter days out there.



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David - OR

03-20-2003 06:05:28




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 Re: Barn/Lights in reply to R.M. In AL, 03-19-2003 21:09:34  
Go to Home Depot or Lowes and buy an 8 foot "heavy duty commercial" flourescent strip light for $49.00.

This has a cold weather magnetic ballast and takes two 110 watt high output T12 tubes (costing about $5.00 each). Supposed to be good for -20 F.

If your ceiling is painted white you could probably light the whole place with one of these placed right in the center. Alternatively, put one over your work area and another to "fill in" the opposite corner.

On a lumens per dollar basis, giving due regard for the cost of electricity as well as purchase price, these fixtures are hard to beat if cold temperatures are a factor.

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JerryU

03-20-2003 04:37:31




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 Re: Barn/Lights in reply to R.M. In AL, 03-19-2003 21:09:34  
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I have a 30 X 40 barn and live in Michigan. I stumbled on the attached fixtures. I was using 300W incandescent, but the electric bill was incredible. These are 65 W flourescent and will light in low temp and warm up to full brightness in a couple of minutes. Nice thing is they cost about $40 a piece.

JU

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MikeC

03-20-2003 03:30:56




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 Re: Barn/Lights in reply to R.M. In AL, 03-19-2003 21:09:34  
You can get a "shop light" with s cold weather ballast in it. I use them in mine and they work fine down to about 10 degrees or so. Then they only are a little dim until the shop starts to warm.



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John,PA

03-20-2003 02:47:04




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 Re: Barn/Lights in reply to R.M. In AL, 03-19-2003 21:09:34  
Hi,

In PA, most of us use just a few 100 watt light bulbs in a ceramic (porcelon fixture, in most of our barns. Generally this is enough light for milking and overall "barn work".

Over the machining area, we use a light at each machine, such as grinders, drill press, etc.

Over the work bench area there will always be some sort of flourscent light fixture.

Rather than lighting the whole building, perhaps just a flourscent fixture over the work bench area will do.

So, just one (1) qualtity flourscent fixture will be better that a bunch of "low end" fixtures.

If you mount a standard porcelon fisture with the normat electrical box set-up, you can always mount a duplex out in the box to plug in flourscent fixtures later. Suspend the flourscent fixture by chains from the ceiling, or screw same to the ceiling.

I wouldn't put more tnan 8 lights (100 watt) on one wall switch coupled to a 15 amp breaker.

High quality (low temperature operation) flourscent fixtures are available at industrial lighing equipment stores. About 100 bucks each. We use this style in our COLD STORAGE ROOMS. Takes too long for the mercury vapor type to get bright.

Hope that this helps.

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Jim-Michigan

03-19-2003 22:35:05




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 Re: Barn/Lights in reply to R.M. In AL, 03-19-2003 21:09:34  
I live in upper Michigan and the cold is a factor here. I have a 1,000 sq.ft shop with 10' ceiling and it is insulated but I generally do not keep it heated unless I am working out there. When I turn on the shop lights they flicker and don't light up well in the cold. I changed over to halageon lights and they work well. The Mercury Vapor lights work in the cold too.The M.V's takwe a few minutes to reach full power. If I lived in southern Fla I could use those cheapo shop lights.

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R.M. In AL.

03-20-2003 20:25:40




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 Re: Re: Barn/Lights in reply to Jim-Michigan, 03-19-2003 22:35:05  
Do the small halogen bulbs like is on display at regular bulb displays but sell for about $3.95 good for lighting this kind of area.I am concidering putting them in the regular white plastic/porcelin fixture.I was wondering if they will make a white type light?? Thanks



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