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Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families?

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RICK/GA

03-26-2003 17:26:50




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I posted this over on the Ford board but thought I'd probably get more response here. So here goes.

OK. I've been loving these Fords for a decade now and have just recently found the Classic Tractors Channel on RFDTV on Dish Network. I only have Fords so I get excited when the show comes on to see whether any look as mine do. My insiration has grown in the past two years with the addition of the 740 and 841 to keep my 8N company.

So what happens? Hardly a Ford to be seen! Plenty of IHs, JDs, ACs and MMs but barely a glimpse of a Ford. Time and time again this is the case. So I order the playing cards from the Classic Tractors website. They offer a deck of JDs or IHs or Over the Pond Tractors or a variety deck. Sooooo I get the variety deck and since many in my family have IHs I get that deck too.

The decks come so I open the variety deck and there may be 2 of 52 tractors that are fords. They even have a 1776 edition riding lawnmower as the Joker. Where are the Fords?

OK I have read a lot about Ford, probably more than most that attend this site even. I haven't read squat about any other tractor brand, although I have an IH book. But have never asked tractor guys the question because I love my Fords and who cares. Well its time to ask. When I watch the show I notice that non Ford tractors in the 30s and 40 and even 50s are much larger and maybe more powerful. FOrds/Fergies 3pt makes it attractive through the 40s. I know Ford tried to compete by making an enexpensive tractor, although my NH dealer doesn't show me the same affection when I order parts.

Whats the scoop guys?

Don't be afraid to be candid.

RICK/GA

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Paul R.

03-28-2003 06:23:00




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 Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to RICK/GA, 03-26-2003 17:26:50  
Two reasons: as well stated by others here, Fords are still out there workin', while EVERY one of its contemporaries has long been relegated to the junk pile or the show trailer. Fords don't go to the show, they got too much work to do. Tractors that do go to the ball usually aren't good for anything else.

Second: Fords aren't considered thoroughbreds: their lineage stems from a "horseless carriage", and they don't have the undiluted bloodline that JD's, IH's and AC's enjoy. Some purists look down their noses at the "little gray Ford", much as they would snicker at a Sears or Home Depot tractor. Somehow, Fords just aren't considered "real" farm tractors.

So, I guess that means that the 750,000 Fordsons and the 800,000+ N-Series tractors that farmers all over the world bought from 1917 through 1952 were just a waste of good iron..... .

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Brian-2N

03-27-2003 07:36:16




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 Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to RICK/GA, 03-26-2003 17:26:50  
Rick,
I've been watching RFD for quite some time. I feel the same disappointment as you, but I still love looking at the old iron. I think most of ours are still in use and not trailer queens.
BTW-I received a book from Reiman Publications the other day (Reiman produces Reminisce, Farm & Ranh Living, etc.). I ordered the book through Farm and Ranch Living. It had 1 photo of a tractor in use, and 1 tractor ad.
The tractor in use was a Fordson model F. The ad was for a 9N. No other tractors in the book. Sweet.

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Don't limit it to Brother-In-Laws

03-27-2003 06:12:29




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 Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to RICK/GA, 03-26-2003 17:26:50  
I have a red headed brother and although he's my brother...he's a pain in the rumpend. 9N'er



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Don't limit it to Brother-In-Laws

03-27-2003 06:11:39




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 Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to RICK/GA, 03-26-2003 17:26:50  
I have a red headed brother and although he's my brother...he's a PITA. 9N'er



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Don't limit it to Brother-In-Laws

03-27-2003 06:11:13




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 Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to RICK/GA, 03-26-2003 17:26:50  
I have a red headed brother and although he's my brother...he's a PITA. 9N'er



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raytasch

03-27-2003 04:38:21




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 Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to RICK/GA, 03-26-2003 17:26:50  
Couple a years ago I bought an 8N from a Deere guy. We had the N loaded and and he volunteered to show his collection of green tractors. Went out to the tractor shed and saw some really nice green machines and a couple old Fords. Wife asked him why the Deere were all restored and kept under cover and the Fords were "as field used" trying not to be too sarcastic. We all smiled over that and he admitted the Fords were the tractors that did the work on his place.
For a utility tractor the Ford line is hard to beat, right size for most small acreage and readily avaible parts . Lets face it if they are maintained they will keep right on working. Many of them are still working after years of neglect and abuse.
ray

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souNdguy

03-26-2003 18:49:11




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 Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to RICK/GA, 03-26-2003 17:26:50  
I feel your pain. I've been to two tractor shows in the last year. I have only seen 2 fords there.. one was a beat up 60's model with the sos tranny.. non working.. and the other was a minty 53 jube from another member who drove down to the show.

And yeas.. lots of johny popers.. IH's and ac's.. even wheel horse garden deals.

Saw a fergie or two.. but nill on the fords.

You talk to the big collectors / restorers, and they kind of laugh at the idea of restoring a ford.. seems the feel the N's were just work wheelbarrows... not restoration material...

Funny thing is.. There are alot of still working n's around. There is a marine shop in the area that uses an 8n to caddy the boat trailers around on the lot, and another guy down the raod that uses his for pasture and yard maintenance. Still another jube down at the seminole store they use to mow the pasture around the store.. And my 8n came from a fellow who had 2 and had a rotary cutter on one and a finish mower on the other.. as he had just got the other 8n from his brother and wanted to sell one... )

Though I havn't seen and antique JD's doing any mowing lately....

( In fairness though.. I know of one familly that has a working cub with the belly mower that still mows around their house and 1/4 acre horse paddock... )

Guess like the comercial says.."built ford tough"
As these old guys are still workers.. and havn't had time to retire yet...

Soundguy

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George Willer

03-26-2003 18:40:28




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 Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to RICK/GA, 03-26-2003 17:26:50  
Rick,

Maybe this is the insight you are looking for. I have 19 tractors. Only 3 of them are Fords. The Fords do most of the work. Only one of the Fords goes to shows.

George Willer



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MikeC

03-26-2003 18:15:45




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 Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to RICK/GA, 03-26-2003 17:26:50  
Sorry Rick, you won't often see N's in situations like that. Most of them are still too busy working to take time off for the photo shoots...



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James

03-26-2003 18:07:39




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 Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to RICK/GA, 03-26-2003 17:26:50  
On our ranch we have a total of approximately 30 acres of aerible land which can be loosely construed as "a field". Since the family first began this "ranching" operation in 1848 there had never been a "tractor" owned by the family with which to farm this aerible land. All ploughing, cultivating, planting, and harvesting was done by hand, horse, and/or by contract with a neighbor who either had another hand, horse, or later...a tractor. This situation continued until the end of WWII when my dad returned from the Service and used his GI benefits to purchase a modestly priced Ford 1946 2N Tractor. This tractor has never left the property since....it has always been a prized and respected "work horse" perhaps not because of the work it was capable of..but because of the method by which it came to reside here. As I was growing up I was always amazed by the "tricycle" style tractors that towered over our little Ford....I knew they were more powerful....more menuverable....and sounded a lot more impressive. But through the years I've seen just about all those tractors disappear from the area. Yet our little 2N remains. And we have since supplemented it with a "relatively young" 1949 8N. These little "scrappers" have always satisfied the requirements of our modest farming operations....and I think this is why they are still so treasured....simply because of their ability to survive, the time frame in which they appeared, and let's face it..... they still sound like they did when we were young!!!!

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2fordsmike

03-26-2003 18:28:19




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 Re: Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to James, 03-26-2003 18:07:39  
Rick; James points out a reason...too useful to simply collect. That's one reason. Another: Ford collectors do not have a great magazine for their hobby. And, I hate to say it, but the Ford club is not as good as Two-Cylinder, Red Power and others, and I am friends with some of the F/FCA (Ford/Fordson Collectors Association) board members.It is my opinion that the Fordson guys are holding back the Ford guys with too much emphasis on the old steel-wheeled Fords that simply are not of interest to most folks today. But we N guys are are not alone. There are at least a dozen Ford collectors with fleets of unique Fords. By the way, I envy your 740. Hope to have one sooner or later. Mike-Iowa

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Fast Ed Ohio

03-27-2003 00:21:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to 2fordsmike, 03-26-2003 18:28:19  
I attend a lot of tractor shows, fairs ect. in ne Ohio area, I see what I would call a fair amount of all tractors, always see a lot of Fords , just dont see them much at the tractor pulls . ( I currently have one red belly, 2 green and yellows and no money ) .



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Jeff- Oh

03-27-2003 06:13:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to Fast Ed Ohio, 03-27-2003 00:21:21  
Ed,

I just got a Fergusen TE20 in late 2001. I go to the Canfield fair every year. Last year I went excited to examine Ford N's and if lucky a Fergy. to see how much origional equipment was left on my tractor.

Much to my dissapointment, there were only a few N's.

The steam powered threashing demo is always fun though. Enjoy the popcorn.



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Rob 9N

03-26-2003 18:24:52




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 Re: Re: Are Fords red-headed step children of tractor families? in reply to James, 03-26-2003 18:07:39  
Well stated James. Rob



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