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Question about spark plug carbon, timing and gap

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9N'er

04-08-2003 16:39:27




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I have some questions about ridding the spark plugs of carbon and a slight ooil residue.

Motor does not seem to burn oil, or miss though.

I replaced the sooted-up 216's with clean 437's. Being a hotter burning plug I assume that may cure some of the carbon build-up?

But what about plug gap?

If I gap them at .025 will they burn hotter, than let's say gapping them at .028? or more?

And timing?

If I slightly advance or retard timing, what will that do to the carbon build-up on plugs?

If I slightly turn the distributor clockwise is that advancing the timing? and counterclockwise retard the timing?

I'll watch the hotter plugs at first and see what happens before I make anymore adjstments.

But I still may adjust the carb toward a leaner mixture.

Advice and comments?

Tom

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Dell (WA)

04-09-2003 01:35:34




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 Re: Question about spark plug carbon, timing and gap in reply to 9N'er, 04-08-2003 16:39:27  
Tom..... ....you raise some interesting miss-conceptions.....

Sooty plugs have NOTHING to do with sparkplug heat range. Sooty plugs denote rich carb mixture. There is NO RELATIONSHIP between soot and carbon. While soot is a soft black, carbon is generally hard gray/tanish deposit. The hotter AL-437 sparkie is good to use with todays no-lead gasoline. Gapp'em at 0.025 rite outta the box.

Sparkplug gap does affect the tempature of the ionized electrons that jump the gap. As a general rule, the wider the gap, the hotter the sparkie..... .BUT..... the problem is the wider the gap, the more sparkie volts your ignition coil gotta generate to jump the gap. Your 9N frontmount sparkies are just addequate, to be charitable. That is why it is so important to remember the 6 volt mantra: "keep'em clean, bright, and tight".

And if a wider gap than the specified 0.025 was good, then as the plug is used and it wears open to 0.028 or 0.030, you'd get a hotter sparkie wouldn't you?..... BUT.....instead you get mis-fire and hard starting. So wider gap isn't always the way to go, is it?

Advancing or retarding the timeing, can marginally effect the sparkplug tip-heat. And when we talk about sparkplug heat range, its the tip-heat that we are talking about. And heat range is a function of sparkie design. You want it hot enuff to burn off carbon deposits that are a by-product of combustion..... .BUT..... you don't want the tip-heat so hot that it self-ignites the gas mixture before its suppost to be ignited by the distibutor timing, because that will blow a hole in the top of your aluminum piston. Its called pre-ignition. (or ping) .....nasty stuff.

You can play around with your ignition timing if you want....BUT....UNLESS you have your tractor on a dyno, ya ain't gonna be provin' nuttin'. Setter for factory specs, you'll be in the ballpark. Ya ain't gonna change the carbon deposits muckin' round with timing.

Automotive engineers spend hours on dynomometer, carefully plotting the optimum ignition timing for maximum hp or maximum economy, and then the EPA sez...no..no.. thats too much smog, and the the engineer have to obey the bureaucrats.

Bottom line..... .if'n you want to know more about automotive/tractor ignition stuff, take a nite school automotive powder-puff course or brouse at your local hot-rod parts shop for ignition and carburator books..... ....respectfully, Dell

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9N'er

04-09-2003 04:39:45




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 Re: Re: Question about spark plug carbon, timing and gap in reply to Dell (WA), 04-09-2003 01:35:34  
Thanks Dell.

Appreciate the insights.

9N'er

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JimNC

04-08-2003 18:05:22




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 Re: Question about spark plug carbon, timing and gap in reply to 9N'er, 04-08-2003 16:39:27  
Tom,
I don't know the answers to all your ?'s but let Me field 1 or 2. I think more plug gap would make them hotter. But with the wrong combination of retarded timing,lean mixture and hotter spark you are asking for a hole being burnt in a piston. I'm not real sure about such low compression engines as the N but for high comp ones POW.

Jim



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9N'er

04-09-2003 04:40:53




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 Re: Re: Question about spark plug carbon, timing and gap in reply to JimNC, 04-08-2003 18:05:22  
thanks Jim. tom



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