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questioN

01-01-2001 20:07:56

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where can i find full details/diagrams on front kingpin/bushing replacement?

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Ed Gooding (VA)

01-02-2001 04:17:31

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Re: ouch again! in reply to questioN, 01-01-2001 20:07:56

Happy New Year..... ..... ..... .Ed
'52 8N475798

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Don (NC)

01-02-2001 06:35:37

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Re: Re: ouch again! in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 01-02-2001 04:17:31

One comment about the process shown in Ed's post...

Step 3, Figure 2, shows the mechanic inserting a crank in the king pin in order to knock the pin out to the front with a hammer. Even if you have a crank or something similar, several posts in the past have said that it's unlikely you will be able to pull the pin out this way. At least, I've never heard anyone say they were successful. May have been possible when these tractors were newer. You're probably going to have to pound the bushing out from the back side anyway, so you may as well knock the pin out from the back also. I has the front end off when I did mine so I'm not absolutely sure you have to pound from the back but it sure looks like the pulley is in the way of knocking it out from the front with the front end still on the tractor.

I had a major problem pounding out the bushing and I learned that there are other ways to remove one, including using a bushing splitter.

Maybe someone who'd done this recently can clarify this for us. Good luck.

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Old George

01-02-2001 17:00:53

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Re: Re: Re: ouch again! in reply to Don (NC), 01-02-2001 06:35:37

Don,
I'm not bragging-well maybe just a little-but I recently pulled mine just like in the picture. I will consider myself lucky, but I had to let you know it IS possible. :-)
Alan Esch
45 2N kit 183513

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Don (NC)

01-03-2001 08:16:33

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Re: Re: Re: Re: ouch again! in reply to Old George, 01-02-2001 17:00:53

Glad to hear that it's possible! Did you use a crank to pull it with?

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Old George

01-03-2001 08:49:13

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ouch again! in reply to Don (NC), 01-03-2001 08:16:33

Yes sir, crank and hammer just like the picture. Wish eveything went so easy "by the book".:-)

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gillman

01-02-2001 15:54:48

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Re: Re: Re: ouch again! in reply to Don (NC), 01-02-2001 06:35:37

maybe it's a wierd blessing that the king pin is so hard to remove 'cause i apparently lost the cap screw that retains the pin. i should probably get a new screw real soon,huh? any one know the size off hand?

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gillman

01-02-2001 20:02:10

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ouch again! in reply to Old George, 01-02-2001 19:11:06

see,i knew somebody would come up with a good answer. thanx,gillman

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Brad

01-02-2001 13:09:13

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Re: Re: Re: ouch again! in reply to Don (NC), 01-02-2001 06:35:37

I just did mine...The pin was stepped so badly I had to blow it out with a torch. I beat it with a socket and a 12 pound sledge and it wouldn't even budge. Something I noticed about my old bushing, it was a split type. If you look real close around the edge you might see the split. Hammer a screwdriver between the axle and bushing and it should collapse. Of course, I noticed this after I'd collapsed it from a spot opposite the split! :)

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Denton

01-02-2001 11:15:35

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Re: Re: Re: ouch again! in reply to Don (NC), 01-02-2001 06:35:37

I replaced mine last night with new(used) front axle and new bushing. I found it was impossible to remove the king pin without first removing the axle support and driving out the kingpin with a large socket and a piece of lumber. Removal of the axle support is really easy (six bolts) and also permitted me to clean that area up well before reassembly. One thing to note. My kingpin was worn from the previous owner allowing the bushing to totally disintigrate and wear the king pin on the front axle. The replacement king pin is really poorly made compared to the original. I am installing the new one and taking the original to a machine shop to turn down the weld I built up. Then replace the new one. It's that much better. ds

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Ed Gooding (VA)

01-02-2001 08:10:50

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Re: Re: Re: ouch again! in reply to Don (NC), 01-02-2001 06:35:37

That's an excellent point, Don. It's important to understand that there's a book way of doing things and then usually a practical way, based on real world experience. The manual is a great place to start to get an idea of the optimum way the manufacturer says to do something, but many of us don't have the tools shown or a pristine tractor with no rust, dirt, grease, etc. Bearings and bushings generally don't come out/go in quite as easily as portrayed in some of these manuals (grin). I share the contents of some of these manuals that I own to help my fellow N-owners, but it never hurts to come back and ask folks who have actually "been there, done that" for complimentary "real world" advice.

Thanks..... ..... ....Ed
'52 8N475798

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Jerry Cummings

01-02-2001 04:32:31

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Re: Re: ouch again! in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 01-02-2001 04:17:31

What book is that from?

Thanks,
Jerry

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Ed Gooding (VA)

01-02-2001 05:09:42

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Re: Re: Re: ouch again! in reply to Jerry Cummings, 01-02-2001 04:32:31

>> What book is that from? <<

Ford Tractor Service Mechanic Training Guide.

Happy New Year..... ..... ..... .Ed
'52 8N475798

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