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Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor

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Prentice

05-12-2003 12:43:49




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My tractor is not running and I need to trailer or tow it. What's the best way to tow the tractor or what's the best way to load a non-running tractor on a trailer? I'm only going about 10-15 miles. Thanks.




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BOB

05-13-2003 18:37:12




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 Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Prentice, 05-12-2003 12:43:49  
Never thought that starter would move anything.did that when was 16 years old on my 4x4 truck in low range many years ago



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Philip, with pic

05-13-2003 05:35:10




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 Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Prentice, 05-12-2003 12:43:49  
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I like using a push bar on dead equipment. Gives more control of the tractor being moved. In this case, the 6000 does not have brakes. I also use a truck instead of the 8N in some applications. Philip.



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raytasch--Driving By Starter-More

05-13-2003 03:30:28




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 Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Prentice, 05-12-2003 12:43:49  
Years ago, stick shift cars and trucks, there was a battery advertisement in many magizines claiming with their battery you could drive your car for miles using their super battery powering the starter of your car. ray



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JMS/MN

05-12-2003 22:55:56




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 Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Prentice, 05-12-2003 12:43:49  
Sure, you can use the starter, but that is not what it was designed for. Use a double-ended hitch. Pipe with yokes at each end to hook to the tractor drawbar and a pickup bumper hitch, other tractor, etc.



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Gaspump

05-12-2003 15:03:07




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 Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Prentice, 05-12-2003 12:43:49  
I just loaded a non-running 8N on my trailer about an hour ago. Did it the easy way with no help required. Simple, took a freshly charged battery hooked it up and let the starter do the work. I had backed my trailer up near the front of the 8N, put the tractor in low gear. Pulled all spark plugs to lessen load on the starter. Then by-passed the starter switch with a short jumper wire as the starter will not normally engage with the tractor in gear. Held the jumper wire to ground and drove the tractor right up the ramps onto the trailer! Plenty of 8N power by electricity, hardly even slowed climbing the ramps. Be very careful, take it slow and steady and be sure the trailer, ramps and tie downs are adequate and that the tractor has brakes.

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Willy-N

05-12-2003 22:58:00




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 Re: Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Gaspump, 05-12-2003 15:03:07  
I did that once and used one of those portable power packs to run the starter with because the Battry was dead. Works great in low gear. Pulled into a gas station with a couple of cars in the 70s during the gas lines too. Mark H.



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Prentice

05-12-2003 16:55:47




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 Re: Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Gaspump, 05-12-2003 15:03:07  
Sounds like a great idea, never thought of that. Is there any danger involved with damaging the starter, gear teeth on flyweel, tranny, engine, etc. loading the tractor this way? Man, this idea sounds great. Instead of pulling the plugs out I will just disconnect the distributor wire. thanks for all the replies so far.



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Gaspump

05-12-2003 17:14:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Prentice, 05-12-2003 16:55:47  
I did not pull the plugs with the primary intention of causing it to not start. I pulled them so as to prevent compression in the cylinders that would impede the power of the starter and movement of the tractor. This in turn does reduce wear and tear on the starter and its components too. Not accidentally starting while loading this way is a good secondary result too.



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Pull the plugs. Rob...nm

05-12-2003 17:06:37




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Gaspump

05-12-2003 15:01:11




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 Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Prentice, 05-12-2003 12:43:49  
I just loaded a non-running 8N on my trailer about an hour ago. Did it the easy way with no help required. Simple, took a freshly charged battery hooked it up and let the starter do the work. I had backed my trailer up near the front of the 8N, put the tractor in low gear. Pulled all spark plugs to lessen load on the starter. Then by-passed the starter switch with a short jumper wire as the starter will not normally engage with the tractor in gear. Held the jumper wire to ground and drove the tractor right up the ramps onto the trailer! Plenty of 8N power by electricity, hardly even slowed climbing the ramps. Be very careful, take it slow and steady and be sure the trailer and ramps are adequate and that the tractor has brakes.

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You clever fellah you! Thanks. Rob...nm

05-12-2003 16:54:38




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RoN of ohio

05-12-2003 15:14:11




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 Re: Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Gaspump, 05-12-2003 15:01:11  
I was thinking of all kinds of towing apparatus and Never gave a thought to using the starter as you suggested. Good idea. If I ever need to load mine, I will use it the same way....Ron



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Jim.UT

05-12-2003 14:12:43




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 Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Prentice, 05-12-2003 12:43:49  
I loaded a dead NAA on a typical 16' car hauler with some chains and a manual come-along. The come-along only had about a 7' cable on it so I would have to stop and readjust periodically to get it done, but it was not physically difficult work.

Hook some chains to each side of the front axle, outside of the radius arms. Connect the chains in front of the tractor far enough out so they don't scape on your hood sides. Connect both chains to a single chain running down the middle of the trailer and hook your come-along to the front of the trailer somewhere. Have some big blocks or wheel chocks handy. When the tractor clears the ramps it may want to roll downhill toward the front of the trailer. When it gets close to topping the ramps, put the chocks in front of the wheels to stop it.

I found that I ran out of come-along with the tractor halfway up the ramps. I needed to chock the rear tires to keep it from rolling back down the ramps while I readjusted the chains to make more progress.

Having help to keep the tractor steered in the right direction is nice. I didn't have any help so I would check it's direction of travel and adjust it as necessary after every 2 or three pulls on the come-along.

Here's another way I helped a friend load a dead tractor once:

With him on the seat of the dead tractor and me on the seat of a live one, I pulled him up on the trailer by driving to one side of the tow truck. You have to be careful not to let the tow chain come too close to the truck or ugly damage would result. At the end I was headed off at a 45 degree angle from the truck and trailer, but with John at the wheel of the dead tractor it stayed in the center of the trailer.

Whatever you do, take it slow and be careful.

Jim.UT

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duey

05-12-2003 14:11:46




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 Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Prentice, 05-12-2003 12:43:49  
Prentice, for my N, I'd try to get some advantage from available terrain, and use my Maasdam PoweR'Pull to winch it on. As mentioned, plan ahead, have enough help to keep things from getting away from you. duey



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MikeC

05-12-2003 12:58:30




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 Re: Best way to trailer/load a non-running tractor in reply to Prentice, 05-12-2003 12:43:49  
In an ideal world you will have a power winch on the trailer that will pull the non-working tractor up.

However, it is not often an ideal world.

I have used another towing vehicle off to the side to pull one up. A hand winch, if it is strong enough (and you have the muscles) will work too. If your trailer has brakes and supports then you could unhook your trailer and pull it up with the towing vehicle from the front as a last resort. Just make sure that the trailer is such that it cannot move or pivot while you are doing it.

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