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Pat

05-12-2003 13:28:21




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I'm getting ready to paint my 51 8n this summer. There is a hole in the hood about the size of a quarter and a couple of holes in the rear wheels about the size of a nickle. Any suggestions on what to fix them with. I'm not much of a body man. Any help appreciated.




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souNdguy

05-13-2003 08:03:27




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 Re: holes in sheet metal in reply to Pat, 05-12-2003 13:28:21  
The other guys have good answers. I'll tell you what I did.

I had some nickel to quarter sized rust outs, as well as pin holes on my 8n and NAA.

I sanded both sides of the hood down clean, pas tthe rust, around the hole, and then cut some metal flashing ( tin? ) and jbwelded it to the back of the hood as a backing for the filler. On the larger hole i used more jbweld as filler.. in the pinholes I used bondo. Do yourself a favor.. if you do the jbweld thing.. get the jb qwick weld.. mix it good and it wont run.. sets fast, gets hard, and sands smoother than bondo. ( harder to sand than bondo. )

I had to do some repairs to the ribbed area on the hood in front.. bondo, lots of patients, and a few types of sand paper and a small form i made worked great. ( I made a form out of epoxy putty on a good section of the ribbing, then used this form with light sand paper to sand the bondo'd ribbing down to almost exact conture. Not 100% perfect.. but looks good at close glance.)

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Pat

05-13-2003 09:03:22




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 Re: Re: holes in sheet metal in reply to souNdguy, 05-13-2003 08:03:27  
Thanks everybody for the help with the holes in my sheet metal. I think i'll try the jb weld thing. I have heard a lot of guys talking about using jb weld for lots of different kinds of repairs even a stripped out carb for the fuel line to take a fitting.



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MikeC

05-12-2003 16:09:32




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 Re: holes in sheet metal in reply to Pat, 05-12-2003 13:28:21  
Another thought to add to the others-when I did my 2N I had 3 fair sized holes in the dash. One was about the size of a quarter and the others were bolt hole size. I tack welded a plate to the back of each hole and filled each one with JB Weld. The front looks perfect, and unless you open the hood and look hard at the back of the dash behind the battery you can't tell a repair was ever made.

If you have a friend with a welder it would only take a few minutes to tack a small piece of metal behind each hole.

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bg

05-12-2003 15:01:12




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 Re: holes in sheet metal in reply to Pat, 05-12-2003 13:28:21  
Depends on where the holes are. In the hood, you can use fiberglass or bondo. if the hole is too big, you can use fiberglass mesh tape, covered with polyester resin. On the wheels, are you talking about the rims or the discs> Well, eitehr way, take them to a welding shop, have the holes built up with weld and/or patch metal and grind then down flush, then paint.

If you're doing a show-quality restoration on the hood, don't use bondo. Take the thing to the welding shop or a body shop and have patches welded in and ground down or leaded if you can find an old-time lead man.

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jeb2n

05-12-2003 15:39:01




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 Re: Re: holes in sheet metal in reply to bg, 05-12-2003 15:01:12  
You said NOT to use bondo for a show quality restoration? Why (out of curiosity)? I want to restore my 2N to factory original, but there is a cut out on the side of the hood along the bottom edge to make room for an alternator.

Basically, the cut goes through the decorative molding along the bottom edge. That's hard to reproduce. I was thinking of layering some fiberglass for a base profile and then filling and shaping with Bondo since it can be sanded and retouched as needed. The cut is right where the dogleg meets the hood on the backside (towards the fuel tank). Any suggestions?

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bg

05-12-2003 21:40:15




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 Re: Re: Re: holes in sheet metal in reply to jeb2n, 05-12-2003 15:39:01  
Bondo is not designed to be used as panel replacement. Bondo was designed to fill and level minor imperfections, not repair major rust-outs and dents. It also works well for doing details like the deco-bead of the hood, IF you have a proper countour sanding tool. You can use it if you can feather it and don't use it for major body work. It works great for shallow dings and dents, but it's difficult to hide major panel repairs. It's necessary to use some bondo or other polyester fillers, because it is really tough to do panel replacement without some minor surface variation.

My 8N had a dent on the curve of the hood 1/2-way from the battery door to the nose. When I sandblasted it, the dent was at least 1" deep and filled with bad bondo. I hammered it out with dollies and body hammers and heat, then it took only a small amount of bondo to level and sand out smooth. You can't even see a ripple under the primer.

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