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Robert

05-14-2003 11:18:24




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Probably a simple question but... how will a 9N do with a post hole digger? The potential concern I have is that you have no down pressure. Maybe the weight of the auger will be enough. Thoughts?




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Duane

05-15-2003 03:59:38




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 Re: Post hole digger and 9N in reply to Robert, 05-14-2003 11:18:24  
I have a 8n and a large farm and I use my post hole digger for hundreds of feet of post every year and it works GREAT.



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Dave OH

05-14-2003 21:50:08




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 Re: Post hole digger and 9N in reply to Robert, 05-14-2003 11:18:24  
Down pressure in not needed. When I first got mine I just lowered it and as soon as it got a bite it was down to max. depth in about 3 seconds. Scared me to death. Now I run it at slow speed and lower it slowly with my 8N in "Position Control".
With a 9N which does not have position control he would get the same "cork screw" action I got.
Dave OH



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pat

05-14-2003 21:33:10




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 Re: Post hole digger and 9N in reply to Robert, 05-14-2003 11:18:24  
I dont think the down pressure is an issue, really, not many tractors have down pressure do they.. the main problem people seem to have is the lack of live hydraulics,, but they go easy and I guess they have no troubles, I use my tn55 to do my holes,, and find that starting at a small angle back it digs in fine, never tried it with my 9n,, but I think just the spin will dig the hole like a drill, like what was said, take it slow and pull it out at first hint of a hard dig,, it is a bear to unscrew these things when in the ground with a LARGE pipe wrench, cheater bar and a bad back for a day later,, good luck,pat

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2fordsmike

05-14-2003 12:43:24




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 Re: Post hole digger and 9N in reply to Robert, 05-14-2003 11:18:24  
50 years ago work-toughened farmers thought they had the world by the tail when they finally got a post hole digger for their Ford-Ferguson tractors. They could handle the problems Chuck and Tom discuss. Personally, I think a very good 9N in fairly mellow soil would be OK. An 9N with worn engine, worn hydraulics and poor brakes, with a dull auger, would be a man killer. A tractor with live hydraulics (engine driven) is greatly prefered on a post hole digger to a tractor (like a 9N) that uses the same pto power for both hydraulics and auger. Been there, done both kinds. Mike-Iowa

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chuck

05-14-2003 11:54:24




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 Re: Post hole digger and 9N in reply to Robert, 05-14-2003 11:18:24  
Robert, I use a post hole digger on a 8N and it works fine even without any weight. Make sure the blades are sharp-my buddy was trying to use one with dull blades and it would not dig. He borrowed my auger and said he was worried that he was not going to be able to stop it before he reached China. Sharp blades make all the difference in the world. I would also think that the lack of position control on the 9N would make it a little more difficult to control but not impossible. Watch out! These things can really jump around when you pull them out. Keep everybody really clear of it when it comes out. Also, don't keep trying if it gets stuck-you don't have reverse and trying harder just gets you stuck harder. The best way I have found to get a stuck auger out is to back it out with a large pipe wrench with at 4-5 foot "torque amplifier" attached.

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Tom 8N396936

05-14-2003 11:28:21




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 Re: Post hole digger and 9N in reply to Robert, 05-14-2003 11:18:24  
Robert, I have mine on my 8N and you are correct it would be easier with some downward pressure (but its still easier than by hand!)
I have my son insert a bar into the PHD at the gear box and put some weight on it, seems to work pretty well.
regards
tom



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I wouldn't==bj/8n./mt

05-14-2003 11:54:59




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 Re: Re: Post hole digger and 9N in reply to Tom 8N396936, 05-14-2003 11:28:21  
The safety warnings that come with these diggers when they were new warn you to keep away. If you are digging post holes in beach sand maybe but I had my Danhauser throw a fist sized rock through the t1-11 siding on the side of a shed. Any body in the line of fire would have been on their way to the hospital.

By way of direct answer to the question, if you turn the PTO slow and wait on it you can dig in some pretty nasty stuff without down pressure. Mine works fine in soil with bunches of river cobbles.

Your mileage may vary

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markct

05-14-2003 19:51:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Post hole digger and 9N in reply to I wouldn't==bj/8n./mt, 05-14-2003 11:54:59  
if you were runnin your posthole digger fast enough to throw a rock thru a shed wall then ya got some real safety issues on your hands there. i have used a posthole digger on our NAA many times, the live hyd make it nicer, and have never had anything come from the post hole digger at any speed nor land more than a few inches from the auger. the real danger with being near it is getting caught in the auger or driveshaft, not objects being thrown. when we were using it with our NAA my father would sometimes push down carefully on the top of the gearbox mount to get it to drill the last foot or so which was hardpan,not recomended but ya do what ya gota do to get the job done, within reason, ya just gota watch the loose clothes and fingers

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