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Way OT...2-cycle outboard

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Salmoneye

05-30-2003 08:31:47




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I have a 71 Eska 3.5HP outboard, and think I know the answer, but need confirmation before I run the heck out of this thing...

Please tell me there is no 'crankcase' oil on a small 'air-cooled' 2-cycle, and that the relative parts all get their lube from the fuel mix...If there is a fill hole, danged if I can find one...

Any help is greatly appreciated as I have a 6-year old on my hip thinking it is time we got to fishing already...

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Steve W

05-30-2003 11:15:17




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 Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to Salmoneye, 05-30-2003 08:31:47  
That outboard I believe uses a techumsa 2 cycle air cooled engine. Lube for engine is through oil gas mixture....but it's a rich mixture....seems I remember like 20:1. The only other lube is in the lower unit. Change that aevery fall after you are done for the season.

Good Luck
Steve



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Rob N VA

05-30-2003 10:47:51




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 Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to Salmoneye, 05-30-2003 08:31:47  
I have the exact same motor. I found it in a junkyard. I cleaned it up and made it look new, but I can't find a good replacement carb for it so I abandoned the project. You are welcome to it if you want it for parts. E-mail me if you are interested and we can discuss shipping. If you aren't interested, good luck with your motor...and no, just mix the oil with the gas is all you need to do. Briggs makes a good all purpouse oil additive that accomodates a wide range of oil/gas mixtures ratios. AND IT'S SYNTHETIC!!!

Rob

Self proclaimed Synthetic Oil Advocate

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Yo Rob...I can help!

05-30-2003 12:35:00




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 Re: Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to Rob N VA, 05-30-2003 10:47:51  
The powerhead was made by Tecumseh, and carbs that will mate right up are available through them or a couple other places I have found!

I appreciate the offer, but this one runs like a top...Just wanted to keep it that way...See my pic in the post titled 'Success OT' above...

Salmoneye



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bg

05-30-2003 09:43:29




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 Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to Salmoneye, 05-30-2003 08:31:47  
Generally speaking, it's not good to make generalizations. Certain 2-cycle engines do have a separate oil supply and use straight gasoline in the fuel tank. The oil/gas mix is accomplished at the carburetor with an oil injector. The 2-cycle engine does not have a typical crankcase oil sump. So if your engine has no separate tank for oil, it should have the mix instructions or ratios somewhere on or near the fuel tank.

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bb531

05-30-2003 09:40:34




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 Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to Salmoneye, 05-30-2003 08:31:47  
Even though there is no crankcase oil, don't forget that there is lube in the lower unit that should be checked. Sometimes water will seep into the unit. Usually there is a lower drain that can be used to let this water out. Good Luck!



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Many Thanks!

05-30-2003 09:21:13




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 Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to Salmoneye, 05-30-2003 08:31:47  
I appreciate all the answers!

Girl?...Get'chur hat...We's goin fishin!

Salmoneye



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BS@ElmaNY

05-30-2003 09:00:32




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 Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to Salmoneye, 05-30-2003 08:31:47  
I'm not familiar with your engine.

But, in general, 2-cycle (or 2-stroke) engines have no oil in the crankcase.

The gas-oil-air mixture enters the large crankcase first, which is when it can lube all the moving parts.

Then, as the piston moves downward, the crankcase (which is sealed via check valves) gets compressed. This pressurized gas-oil-air mixture is then fed into the cylinder when the inlet port opens. The inlet port (located on the side of the cylinder, as is the exhaust port) opens when the piston moves downward.

You see, there are no actuated valves in a 2-stroke engine. The piston, as it moves up and down, opens and closes the intake and exhaust ports which are in the sides of the cylinder.

OK, so this pressurized mixture moves into the cylinder, which also pushes out most of the exhaust gases. Then, the piston moves upward, closing off the intake & exhaust ports and compresses the gas-oil-air mixture. The spark plug then ignites the mixture for power. The piston moves downward and the pressurized exhaust gases start to exit when the piston moves downward enough to open the exhaust port.

I know this is a bit wordy, but 2-stroke engines are really cool. They have fewer moving parts. They're light weight. The produce more power as they fire on every engine revolution rather than every other like a 4-cycle engine.

Good luck fishing.

Bri

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Dell (WA)

05-30-2003 08:46:26




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 Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to Salmoneye, 05-30-2003 08:31:47  
Salmoneye..... ...yeah, thats the beauty and ugly of 2-strokes, no crankcase oil needed. just bring lots of spare sparkies and extra pull'em cord. I always manage to fling the cord innna the water or summplace can't gettitt (grin), 'course nowdays, I'd also carry a can of ether quickstart..... ..Dell

Teach a child to fish, never go hungrey. Good thing to do.



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H Otis.

05-30-2003 11:21:00




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 Re: Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to Dell (WA), 05-30-2003 08:46:26  
Teach a man to fish and he won't go hungry until all of the rivers get so darned polluted that all the fish die.



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How's it go...? Evil Ste

05-30-2003 08:49:25




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 Re: Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to Dell (WA), 05-30-2003 08:46:26  
"... Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he buys a boat!"

Evil Steve, 18.5 ft Kenner bay boat (grin)



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No, It's....Tom 8N396936

05-30-2003 12:43:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to How's it go...? Evil Ste, 05-30-2003 08:49:25  
No I think its "light a man a fire and warm him for a day- Light a man on fire and warm him for the rest of his life"
just a thought
tom



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Greg

05-30-2003 09:41:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to How's it go...? Evil Ste, 05-30-2003 08:49:25  
Or... "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will set at a bar for hours and talk about it."

Related... "One of the two happiest days of your life is the day you buy a boat. The other is the day you sell the boat."



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markct

05-30-2003 10:04:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to Greg, 05-30-2003 09:41:48  
hmm, well atleast that doesnt seem to apply to tractors, i guess when i bought my ford 8000 was one of the happiest days of my life acording to my girlfriend, who descibes it to me family as, "he was like a little kid, all excited"



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Correct - Evil Steve

05-30-2003 08:45:17




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 Re: Way OT...2-cycle outboard in reply to Salmoneye, 05-30-2003 08:31:47  
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