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Pat

05-30-2003 10:57:41




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I searched the archives with no luck. was there something about using a degreaser I think purple stuff was mentioned. My 51 8n is not that bad just needs a good cleaning before paint. What do I use that I can brush on and wash off. Thanks, Pat.




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ZANE

05-30-2003 19:50:39




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 Re: degrease before painting in reply to Pat, 05-30-2003 10:57:41  
This is the secret recipe given me by an old Indian called Chief Muckity Muck.You just use as much water as you want paint remover. A gallon will be a good amount to begin with to sorta experiment with. Add corn starch to the water FIRST till the water is the color of whole milk. Then stir in the lye slowly till the mixture begins to thicken. Add just enough to make it the consistency of thick gravy. Paint in on with a brush.
Use safety glasses and gloves. It will sting if it is gotten on the skin but will not burn if rinsed off soon with lots of water. Vinagar will act as a neutralizer.

Let is sit on the tractor etc as long as possible without it drying out. Then wash off with the garden hose or a pressure washer if one is available. You can do it as many times as it takes to get it all cleaned off. It will not harm the wiring.
The secret of sucess is the thickening that the corn starch contributes to the mixture. This allows it to stay where it is put and not run off and dry out too fast. Water and lye would do the same thing if it would stay put but it won't.

We get our lye at the grocery store here but I have heard that it is also an ingredient in some illegal drug and lots of stores no longer carry it.

Zane

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TJ

05-30-2003 20:27:58




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 Re: Re: degrease before painting in reply to ZANE, 05-30-2003 19:50:39  
I remembered having seen this recipe a couple years ago and I printed it out back then. I am getting myself ready to strip down old paint on a recent 2N purchase. I bought the corn starch and the Red Devil Lye at Kroger. It was about 3.69 for the lye and .99 for the store brand corn starch. I checked a couple stores before I checked the Kroger none had it. Kroger had plenty.
Oh buy the way Zane, I bought one of your "THANGS" a couple years ago. I love it. TJ from GA

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Bill W.

05-30-2003 18:37:39




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 Re: degrease before painting in reply to Pat, 05-30-2003 10:57:41  
I swear by an oven cleaner named "Oven Brite" I buy it by the gallon from my local industrial cleaner company. Spray it on with any 1 qt spray bottle, let set overnite for best results and crank up the presssure washer. Will get all but the hardest of grime. Second application will get that. Let dry after pressure washing and wire brush with cup wire wheel on 4 l/2 " angle grinder and you're ready to paint except for sanding on sheet metal.

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bg

05-30-2003 13:18:14




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 Re: degrease before painting in reply to Pat, 05-30-2003 10:57:41  
After a thorough cleaning, you could use mineral spirits followed by naptha to degrease it. You need to make sure it's throughly dry, too, in all of the little corners and cracks, because water makes for a messy paint job.



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MikeC

05-30-2003 11:50:02




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 Re: degrease before painting in reply to Pat, 05-30-2003 10:57:41  
Castrol makes a product that really works great. I used it to clean up some wheels that had years of thick grease on them and the stuff just melted off. I only needed to scrub lightly. I think it's called Purple Power but I'm not sure.



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Errin OH

05-30-2003 11:49:03




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 Re: degrease before painting in reply to Pat, 05-30-2003 10:57:41  
My vote goes to the oven cleaner. I went to clean up the NAA for painting, nothing fancy remove grease and oil, wire brush rust areas and paint. After trying kerosen, engine degreaser, plain water in a pressure washer, I picked up a can of Heavy Duty Easy Off Oven Cleaner and WOW what a differance. Spray on let set 15-20 min, and pressure wash off. The should rename that stuff grease be gone and charge $20 a can....

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Adam P

05-30-2003 11:29:21




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 Re: degrease before painting in reply to Pat, 05-30-2003 10:57:41  
You'll get a lot of replys on this one... I like Heavy Duty Easy Off oven cleaner. That one seems to be the best. Spray it on, let it soak for a while, then spray some more on and work in with a brush. Then rinse/wash off with a pressure washer if you have one. (or a blast tip on a good pressure garden hose) Then you might want to use a spray on/rince off citric degreaser for follow up....
Good luck, and we would all love a before and after photo!!!
Adam P

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