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OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky or ne

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Prentice

05-30-2003 17:44:24




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Guys (gals if any are here),

My wife and I are building a home on 1.5 acres of land. Not enough for the 8n to mow with the trees on the lot, but slightly to large for a push mower. I'm thinking about a Craftsman or a Husky. Is the cast iron front axle a must? which is the better mower or should I look in another direction? No JD greenies please..... .




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Oh why not........ BigDaw

05-31-2003 18:46:28




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
Consumer Reports recommends the following in hydro models:

1- JD L110
2- Cub Cadet 1500 Series 1527
3- White Outdoor LT1650
4 - JD LT 160
5- Wheel Horse

The Husky that was rated #1 value last year dropped to 9th.

What does it all mean..

I have 2 push mowers and a pull behind the ATV mower. 11HP.

Doug
Wisconsin



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Lou (VA)

05-31-2003 11:47:39




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
I had a Snapper 12 HP rear B&S engine which used to stall when cutting only 8" clover. Replaced it with a Sears Craftsman 50" cut 26 HP Kohler Twin Cylinder about 5 years ago. Only problem (last season) was a split idler pulley which was ordered on-line and replacement mailed to our home. If I had a welder, I could have repaired the pulley myself. This garden tractor will cut the tallest grasses & weeds. When my field gets too tall for my 5' KingKutter finish cutter on the '52 8N, I just mow it down with the Sears tractor. The manual is excellent and any repairs are easy to fix and trouble shoot. Parts are always available too. Keep it clean and it will last for many years. My second choice would be a Kubota but only due to the price.

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Mike S

05-31-2003 06:04:51




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
Just my 2 cents worth. I bought a Toro 8-32 back in 1986. Briggs IC engine, electic start. Has a 5 speed Peerless gear box. With the exception of blade replacements, tune ups and a replaced solinoid and ignition switch, this mower just keeps on running. My yard is only 1/2 acre but for quite a few years it was used to mow about another 1.5 acres for family. It now needs new front tires and new chute for the grass catcher but that is all. If Toro still sold this model, I would buy it in a heartbeat. Might be worth a look if you have dealer near you.

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bryan timbrook

03-12-2006 14:06:51




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 Re: Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Hus in reply to Mike S, 05-31-2003 06:04:51  
hello there, i was doing a little research on used riding lamn mower prices when i found your post. my neighbor has a toro 8-32professional model with no bagger. he told me to take and charge the battery to see if i wanted it. well about $70 dollars later i got it running and now want to make him an offer for it. please tell me how much you paid for yours or your opinion on what it is worth. thanks -- bryan

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Dunfords

05-31-2003 06:03:04




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
I too bought a Scotts (JD) at Home Depot 16HP Hydro paid about $1700. I know you said no green but you need to think about it. I used it for three years not one problem. Two years were on a smaller lot and one year on 3 acres so I traded this winter. Got good $ on the trade. I replaced it with a Koubta with a 60" deck. Even the Kubota dealer was impressed with the tractor and it's orginal purchase price when I showed him the recipt. Needless to say it was on his lot for only a few hours. It was a great mower without paying a lot of green for the green paint.

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BS@ElmaNY

05-31-2003 01:20:01




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
We have 2 small rider mowers, let me tell you about them.

First, we have a 3 year old Craftsman. It has the 22 HP Kohler V-twin 2-cylinder engine. It's got a 50" deck with 3 blades. It's got the automatic transmission (hydrostatic drive if you want to call it that).

We have had to replace parts from time to time. If you're handy with tools, then they aren't too bad. They are a very good price, but as others have mentioned, expect some problems.

The Craftsman is great from an operating point of view. Easy steering. A little difficult to get on as you can't step though it like some other brands, but that varies with the various Craftsman models. Easy speed adjustment with the automatic, and it's essentially got cruise control (no having to keep your foot on the gas pedal all the time). Decent turning radius. Decent cut (grass looks good when done). Engine fairly good from a vibration point of view. A single cylinder engine would vibrate more for this HP rating, that's why we went with the 2 cylinder engine.

To repeat, expect to replace some parts. Always have a spare set of blades so you can swap them out quickly and sharpen the dull ones them at your convenience.


We also have a 5 year old "Lawn General" mower, same as a Murry, I believe. It's 18 HP with a 42 inch cut. It was a good price, but we have had to replace parts and do various repairs. It's a single cylinder engine, and you notice the vibration. Not a bad mower, but not outstanding, either. It's a little harder to steer. and, with the hydrostatic tranny you have to keep your foot on the gas pedal all the time.


Basically, you get what you pay for. For 1½ acres, a cheapy mower probably would be OK. But, if you're not handy with tools, think about a better quality mower, like a John Deere or Cub Cadet, etc. I'm not sure their lower-end models (like the JD's sold at Home Depot now) are all that well built. But, if you go to an authorized dealer and get a middle line or top line mower, you're going to get a quality piece of equipment and will have to pay for it. You're also going to get a dealer that will be there for you when you have a problem.


With both mowers, I wear ear plugs. Every rider I’ve used, as well as my 2N & 8N, is noisy enough to necessitate using ear protection. The few times I didn’t wear ear plugs, I noticed a ringing in my ears when I got done. These pieces of equipment make enough noise to require ear protection if you don’t want to risk hearing loss.


Just my 2¢.

Bri

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michael

05-30-2003 20:47:53




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
i have a 76 ford LT100. every spring i go look at craftsman, huskee etc, then sharpen the blades, change oil, check belts, clean the air filter on the old ford



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Rob N VA

05-30-2003 20:36:13




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
I am going to deviate from what everyone else here is saying. I would highly recomend a Snapper rear engine rider. They are a little pricy, but they are highly highly manuverable. They corner like nobodys business, and they are sturdy little machines.

As for craftsman...I wouldn't take one one if you gave it to me!!!

JMHO--Rob



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Ted

05-30-2003 20:29:11




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
Im soooo glad you asked...Ive been wanting to air out my frustration for some time now.I bought a Poulan Pro from Sears - 20 horse Briggs twin with a 46" deck.The only difference between it and the Craftsman besides color and decals was the Poulan has a cast iron front axle and a roller on the front of the deck.Bottom line for a mower is it should do a decent job of mowing your lawn right? NOT this machine.It has the worst deck that I believe has ever been built.PLEASE PLEASE dont buy one of these because I promise you will regret it.One day soon Im going to bite the bullet and spend whatever it takes to get a machine that has some research behind its design.

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bg

05-30-2003 20:04:59




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
Don't buy a mower with a stamped-steel axle. I had to rebuild the front end and entire steering sector of the Craftsman mower my brother and mother share. Someone hit something and tore the spindle right out of it. The previous Craftsman they had threw a rod. A Craftsman I had wore out the rings. I had a Murray that lasted 11 years before I gave it away because the 2nd deck wore out. . BTW a lot of these mowers are made by MTD. I notice that most of the commercial yard guys around here use JD. A few are using Cub Cadets and the budget guys use Murrays and Craftsman. I have a 22 hp/42 Murray I cut about 3 acres with. I think if I buy a new mower, it will be a Cub Cadet with hydrostatic transmission. If you want a real mower buy an old Wheel Horse with a Kohler engine.

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DON TX

05-30-2003 19:13:51




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
I have a Huskee(TSC) that I wouldn't have if it wasn't free. Friend did,t have room for so let's me use it. I have to maintain it. No big expenses yet, but tranny is weak. 52" cut and 22 hp. Could be the abuse he put it thru before I got it. 5th gear will stop in tight corners. Engine doesn't slow down a bit but it justs slows to a stop. Small grades slow to a stop. Must be hydro static. It's only 4 yrs old. Springs are breaking on it all the time. Hard to get the deck off to sharpen the blades. Couldn't get the blade nuts loose to sharpen. Yes, I know left hand threads. Couldn't budge em. Hpoe they have improved the ride. It beats me worse than the 8N.
HTH
DON TX

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Adam P

05-30-2003 18:52:18




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
Have you thought about a vintage rider??? (or walk-behind) You don't want to get me started on this one as I have almost a dozen small tractors, mostly walk behinds..... But for a whole lot less money you could really find something nice, and maybe kinda cool. Like a Panzer with a deck, or a David Bradley (Walk behind, riding mower, or small tractor). My gal uses a 1964 Sears Custom 600, with electric start... Well, I could really keep going, but I'll quit now.!.!.! By the way, unless you really get into something wild (like a Three wheel Bantam with a front mount mower, you will have a simpler time finding parts than you otherwise might have thought. Lets try to preseverve some of this old iron, and us people are the ones who should do it!!!
Oh, by the way, If I'm not mistaken, the Scotts by JD, is really a JD by, I think, MTD...I forget
Adam
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MikeC

05-30-2003 18:38:09




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
I know of 5 people that have newer Craftsman tractors and all of them have trouble with them.

My father in law has a Craftsman that sometimes starts turning over and keeps turning the engine over until the battery wears down. It just starts doing it all on it's own. The key is not on so the engine can't start. Been back to Sears 3 times so far and been "fixed". Still doing it. Happens once or twice a month. It is less than a year old.

My brother in law has a Craftsman that is 3 years old and the mower deck already has significant stress cracks. He has replaced 2 bearings in the deck.

One neighbor has a Craftsman that is about 2 years old and the hydrostatic drive transmission has had problems and still does not seem right. Slips like mad going up a hill. Belt is tight.

One neighbor has a Craftsman that is about 3 years old and has stress cracks on the mower deck. I helped him weld them this spring. The PTO that runs the mower has been replaced.

One neighbor has a Craftsman that is about 4 years old and the frame is bent from using a snowblade. He can't mow with it because the mower deck is not level by about 1/2 inch.

On the other hand, I have one of those "greenies". It is about 7 years old now. I maintenance it regularly. I had to replace the mower drive belt. It has been used fairly hard, especially when I mowed commercially part time in the summer about 4 years ago. I put it away for the winter and in the spring I put the battery back in and it fires up. Before I had my N I used it to plow the driveway with a snow blade.

You'll get what you pay for.

JMHO

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Hobo,NC

05-31-2003 16:42:20




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 Re: Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Hus in reply to MikeC, 05-30-2003 18:38:09  
If I did not know better I would think I was your neighbor. i have said all along they need to sell a welder with their mowers.. i have had all those problems. I have a craftsman that I got new as aback up mower to my cub that was a 90 model. The trans on the craftsman is broke now. I would say it has less than 50 Hr. on it. Had to weld the deck , the front axle, the brackets and arms that hold the deck on, about all the steering. Had to seal the tires, they cracked and leaked threw the side walls, charging system went out,starter drive bit the dust, hood brackets broke, belts, mower deck bearings,it has a uneven cut, Its junk!. I now have a cub cadit and a gravely. What ever you buy the first thing I would do is get the manule out and set up the deck heights. I have yet to buy a mower that was set up right, even the hige end mowers. It will save the mower deck wheels from premature wear.

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Shaun

05-30-2003 18:04:07




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 Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Husky o in reply to Prentice, 05-30-2003 17:44:24  
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This may still qualify as a "JD greenie", but I picked up a 2554 Scott's (made by JD) at Home Depot last year and have been THRILLED with it. 25hp Kohler, hydrostatic, and all those goodies. I had actually talked myself into the next model down, but on the day of purchase I located a 2554 (largest in that line) that had been returned with less than about 6 hours on it. I picked it up at a major discount and the thing is in perfect condition.

I needed something to do those spots where a larger tractor would not reach well and I too went through the search of all the different brands. Within 2 weeks, my father (a Craftsman fan) also bought a Scott's.

-shaun

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Rick H. Ga.

05-30-2003 19:43:52




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 Re: Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Hus in reply to Shaun, 05-30-2003 18:04:07  
I bought a Scotts 16/42 (16hp Kohler /42" cut, hydrostatic trans) three seasons ago and I really like mine also. The construction is tight and the metal deck is thick and it has the cast iron front axel. So far so good. Rick H. Ga.



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Barnstormer

05-30-2003 18:40:31




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 Re: Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or Hus in reply to Shaun, 05-30-2003 18:04:07  
My neighbor has a Scotts about that size. He had some trouble with the electric clutch and used my 8N and 6 foot Woods for about 3 weeks. He said time wise to mow his lawn, they were about equal (running the 8N in third gear vs his Scotts speed). However, he wants to buy one of my 8N's because it rides better.
I spent some time with him looking at his clutch problem. My concern for the electrically challenged is all of the safety switches that could go bad. Otherwise, seems like a good mower.

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Shaun

05-30-2003 19:13:49




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 Re: Re: Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsman or in reply to Barnstormer, 05-30-2003 18:40:31  
Yep... on my particular model there was a "safety" switch that did not allow the blades to run in reverse. It would almost shut down the engine. The year after, they produced a manual over-ride switch. I produced my own. Took the switch loose on the back down near the rear end. I'm all for safety, but come'on... ya can't have it shutting down because you have to back up. We're not backing up 18-wheelers... just mowers... ha, ha.

Mine has a 54" cut so you can imagine my surprise when I discovered a lot of people running things like Kabotas were only running 60". I realize all the other differences, but wow... what a jump in $

-shaun

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Barnstormer

05-30-2003 19:42:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craftsma in reply to Shaun, 05-30-2003 19:13:49  
Manufacturers are gun shy because of law suits by careless owners. I know of a case (and I'm sure there are more) where the driver had a toy wagon attached and backed up. The wagon tipped over and a child's leg was seriously injured.
So, we all pay more for someone else being careless or stupid and has a "good" lawyer to go after a "bad" design.



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Shaun

05-30-2003 20:05:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT-Riding Lawnmowers......Craf in reply to Barnstormer, 05-30-2003 19:42:03  
Agreed.

-shaun



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