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paul 1951 8n

06-05-2003 19:35:35




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Searched the archives for the answer but couldn't find it . Looked for the timming marks on the flywheel and couldn't find them. Is their anything I can clean it with to find the marks.I had the timing light on it and still couldn't find them. Went very slow tooth by tooth and still no marks.I put in new points and condenser new coil and carb kit and rebuilt the governor.I need to set the timing. Seeems to be under powered 115 compression on all cylinders. If the valves were bad would this show up on the compression test? May be excepting to much?

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David - OR

06-06-2003 06:46:21




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 Re: flywheel timing marks in reply to paul 1951 8n, 06-05-2003 19:35:35  
There should be TWO sets of marks 180 degrees apart on an original flywheel for a side mount. They did it that way so you could use any spark plug wire for your timing light.

The marks are stamped into the flywheel face, on the engine side, just inside the ring gear. The numbers are maybe 5/16ths of an inch high. They should be fairly obvious if you went over it tooth by tooth.

It is possible that the original flywheel was replaced with a flywheel from a front-mount engine over the years, and that there are no timing marks to be found.

You can make your own timing marks. The easiest place is the front crankshaft pulley. Using Dell's method, turn the engine until you find TDC for number 1 (compression stroke). There's a place on the timing cover, near the distributor, where you can use a cold chisel or a permanent marker to make an indicator line. Measure the diameter of the crankshaft pulley. Call this "D".
Calculate the following O = D * 4/360 * 3.14. (For an 8 inch diameter pulley O = 0.28 inches)

Make a second mark on the crankshaft pulley rim offset by distance "O" from the first mark. A cold chisel works best for this one. The offset should be counter-clockwise from the first mark, looking from the REAR of the engine.

The two marks, when aligned with each other, should now indicate the 4 degrees BTDC initial timing for the side mount.

Alternatively, just find TDC, mark the timing cover and pulley where they're at (thereby making a 0 BTDC mark), and just eyeball in a 0.25 inch offset with your timing light as you set the timing.

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Rob

06-06-2003 00:40:01




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 Re: flywheel timing marks in reply to paul 1951 8n, 06-05-2003 19:35:35  
Just yesterday I wiped some wd-40 on a rusty ol' punch to clean it off. Before I started wiping I noticed it really made the markings stamped into the punch stand out clear as a bell.



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Dell (WA)

06-05-2003 21:57:53




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 Re: flywheel timing marks in reply to paul 1951 8n, 06-05-2003 19:35:35  
Paul..... ...115 psi compression is almost braggin' rights. (grin) Your VALVES ARE GOOD.

See if this'll help ya..... ...sometimes yer lucky with some real oldfashoned chalkboard chalk will kinda fill the fine timing lines. Maybe some babypowder blown innna the hole. Its gonna be a tuff go to find. Sometimes yer lucky if you remove the #1 sparkie and remote crank it untill #1 compression blows yer thumb off'n the sparkie hole.

Sometimes you can be clever with some solid copper house wire and in the form of a "Z" (kinda) stick it in the sparkie hole (remember sparkies are NOT over the piston and so ya gotta zig-zag it) and when manually cranking the engine with the fanblade, the piston will come up against one of the leggs of the "Z" and you'll see the "Z" flagg ya, top of stroke. (soft copper won't hurt steel cylinders or aluminium piston tops. The go lookin' fer yer timing marks..... ..Dell

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