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Rich SWMO

07-08-2003 07:53:08




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If I try to name everyone that posted something I've read here,I'll miss some for sure, but I wanted to thank everyone that contributes here on the N-Board. Dad bought a '46 2N last summer to help out on the 40 acres that I bought. In the last year we have: Rebuilt carbureator, replaced the coil, plugs, points, condenser, changed the motor oil, replaced key switch (3), replaced leaking fuel line, fuel line end filter, and installed an ORC. Three weeks ago, Dad was brush-hogging and an overhanging limb caught him in the shoulder. That led to a little incident with a steel fencepost that took out the well-done 'farmerized' front grill, (piece of old mining grill with 1 inch holes), and sheared the Grade 2 shearbolt on the PTO to hog linkage. Scared the bejeebers outta Dad and me, especially when I heard the noise and saw him bouncing down the hill trying to regain control of the 2N. Well, we got all of those things checked out and repaired, but the lift wouldn't lift. Removed the inspection plate, found the relief valve, started her up, PTO engaged no drips or obvious leaks to be seen, no noticeable swirlys in the diffy oil, and no relief valve leakage. Checked the control-arm yoke for movement which seemed ok. Last week I did some reading here, went back Saturday and checked to make sure the 'T' on the Control-valve wasn't broken or disconnected, which it wasn't. In the process of checking the Control-valve I realized that, although the lift control arm was moving the yoke, it felt kind of stiff. I tried to move the Control-valve with my hand and it was very difficult. Mmm hmm. Five gallons of kerosene later, pulled the PTO shaft, a good 4 or 5 handfuls of gunk removed from the differential, about 5 minutes of sloshing around and gingerly probing the nooks and crannys that harbored 'goo'. New gaskets on 2 drain plugs, inspection cover, PTO retainer shroud, and 5 gallons of fresh 90W. Crossed my fingers and fired her up. Pulled back on the lift control and up came the arms! Sunday, we reinstalled the radiator from the Ford 861 I bought last month, that I had the radiator shop boil and repair, installed a new temperature gauge, lower radiator hose, and new thermostat. Oh, and replaced left rear freeze/welch plug, two weekends ago. First thing I did the weekend I bought it was coil, points, condenser, plugs, and rotor. She seemed to be overheating, and/or vaporlocking, which led me to the radiator repair. Now, I seem to have good circulation and flow when viewing the coolant with the radiator cap off. The new temperature gauge shows that she's running about 175 degrees under load, e.g. brushhogging. Ran her about 20 minutes after we got her back together and she started cutting out. The original fuel line had been switched to rubber fuel hose. I couldn't find a picture or schematic for the routing of the original steel line in the FO-20 manual nor on this board, so I ran new fuel hose with a constant 'downhill' attitude to a glass high performance automotive fuel filter about 6 inches above the fuel sediment bowl. My next step is to replace the key switch, in response to the '20 minute' symptom. If that doesn't work, pull No. 1 plug, and check rotor lineup, and timing.

Sorry for such a long post, but y'all have been a wealth of knowledge and help, and I just wanted to list all the things that I've done with these two old Ford tractors. I worked the hayfields for 3 years when I was in Highschool, but all I ever did was grease the zerks and fill the fuel tanks, and stack about 30,00 bales.

Thanks everyone!

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Don in Fl

07-08-2003 11:52:45




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 Re: Thank you N-Boarders ! in reply to Rich SWMO, 07-08-2003 07:53:08  
you say " The original fuel line had been switched to rubber fuel hose. I couldn't find a picture or schematic for the routing of the original steel line in the FO-20 manual nor on this board, so I ran new fuel hose with a constant 'downhill' attitude to a glass high performance automotive fuel filter about 6 inches above the fuel sediment bowl"

Most guys on here recommend that you do not use an additional fuel filter or a rubber line on the 8n's This is a gravity flow system and the other fuel filter require a fuel pump....as I understand it. Just a suggestion good luck, you have done a lot of work.

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Rich SWMO

07-08-2003 14:05:02




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 Re: Re: Thank you N-Boarders ! in reply to Don in Fl, 07-08-2003 11:52:45  
Don, that particular reference was to the 861 Powermaster that I have, in addition to Dad's '46 2N. We replaced the steel fuel line on the 2N with new steel line. I'd replace the hose arrangement on the 861 with steel if I could figure out exactly where it "goes between the manifold and the engine". Once I find that info, I'll redo the fuel supply line correctly when I get ready to paint the sheet metal this fall. I'm also considering converting to a vertical exhaust on the 861 to help dissipate some of the heat that's boiling the fuel. I'm not too crazy about the fuel being so hot. I'm changing plugs, and going to check the timing setup this evening as I think I may be running too lean, (haven't touched the carb settings since I bought it). Pulled plugs 3 and 4 this weekend when I was installing the new Temp gauge, and they were pretty well carboned up, and dry.

I do have a question though. On the Ford msg board I've seen several posts that point to the hundred series timing being 1243 clockwise. There was a post by Dell on that board that said counter clockwise, and I have seen several posts about N-tractors being counter clock wise. Should the 861 plugs be attached counter clockwise around the distributor cap from No. 1?

4----- 3----- 2----- 1
O----- O----- O----- O _____ _____ _____o
_____ _____ __1o___o
_____ _____ _____o


That's about the best representation I can do for the way my cap sits now. I'm planning on removing No.1 plug, manually turning engine until I get pressure on the plug hole, and noting where the rotor is pointing for plug wire one. At that point, if I turn the engine again, it should point to number two position correct?

Thanks for your comments.

Rich

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Bob

07-08-2003 19:37:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Thank you N-Boarders ! in reply to Rich SWMO, 07-08-2003 14:05:02  
Pull the COIL WIRE out of your distributor cap, and secure it away from the distributor, and ground it to prevent stray sparks, fire, or shock. Tie the distributor CAP out of the way. Now crank your engine, and note which way your distributor rotor turns. This is the direction you install the wires, in firing order, starting with #1.



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Rich SWMO

07-08-2003 20:50:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Thank you N-Boarders ! in reply to Bob, 07-08-2003 19:37:40  
Thanks!



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Gary_N_WV

07-08-2003 08:43:59




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 Re: Thank you N-Boarders ! in reply to Rich SWMO, 07-08-2003 07:53:08  
So Rich...what have you done in your spare time?-smile-



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souNdguy

07-08-2003 08:18:32




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 Re: Thank you N-Boarders ! in reply to Rich SWMO, 07-08-2003 07:53:08  
Looks like you are on the right track, and off to a good start.

keep up the good work, and good luck!

Soundguy



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