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Rob N Va

07-17-2003 20:01:51




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I know this is probably a dumb question, but I bought a set of adjustable stabilizer bars, and one side of the stabilizer bar has a bit of an angle to it and the other side has no angle at all. The end of the stabilizer bar that has the angle to it forces the geometry to be way off and I can not seem to get them attached to the pin under the fender, and the brush hog pin at the same time. What the heck am I missing? Did I buy the wrong thing? Thanks in advance for any help or insight!!---Rob

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PloughNman

07-18-2003 14:31:07




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 Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Rob N Va, 07-17-2003 20:01:51  
Hey Rob-
Did you try searching the archives yet? I think this question was answered a few weeks ago, but here goes again. First, you shouldn't need those "adjustable" bars. You want them to be exactly the same length. Your hole spread on your N lift arms are 31-1/2". The stabilizer bars are solid bars with 1" holes spaced 31-1/2" apart. The stabilizer bars should have a slight angular bend in opposite directions on each end of each bar. Do not confuse STAY bars with the stabilizer bars. Drawbar stays are two-piece flat bars that are slightly adjustable and connect from the top link to the lift arms and the 11-hole drawbar and are meant to hold the lift at a certain height. You set the height and then leave it. If you use the lift you will damage your hydraulics to say the least. They were included in the original equipment new along with a WARNING badge and lockout chain attached to the lift control so you wouldn't "accidentally" lift it.

The link pins on the fender brackets must be set the same on both sides, and, face inward towards the link pins on the lift arms connected to your tractor. Picture your two index fingers pointing tip-to-tip, but not touching...got it? Next, leave the bracket bolts loose at first. Connect the end of the bar to the bracket while maintaining the angle inwards. Then connect the opposite end to your implement and this end angles away from the tractor. Try your lift slowly to be sure there isn't any bending of the bars. When they look cool, tighten the fender bolts down and watch the lifting action again. This should work. Contact me if you want pictures.

Tim

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Rick H. Ga.

07-18-2003 04:56:42




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 Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Rob N Va, 07-17-2003 20:01:51  
Rob, it sounds like you might have a set of stabilizer bars for the newer Ford 2000 or 3000 with the square axle trumpet design. The angled end goes under the axle so when the implement is raised to its highest position, the stabilizer bar will not hit the axel.

The bars for the N, Jub., NAA, hundred series, etc... are straight except for a slight angle near the holes on each end.

Also, the stabilizer bar pin under the fender should be located directly across from the lower hitch pins on the rear end housing. If not, the geometry will not be consistent as the lift is raised up and down. HTH. Rick H. Ga.

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Shaun

07-17-2003 23:57:00




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 Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Rob N Va, 07-17-2003 20:01:51  
Rob -

In your same boat about 8 weeks ago. I bought the adjustable ones from TSC and they indeed had the one bent end. Even the one-piece I've seen at TSC have slight bends in them.

To install, I attached the bent end under the axle so that the other end was thrown inward toward the center line of the tractor. Once pinned, I then held the other end and adjusted (pronounced "bent") it by pulling it outward just enough so it aligned with my hog pin. Other side - same way. They fit great now and definitely do the job! Just make sure to adjust them to the same length before installation and then fiddle with the implement to get it centered (assuming you don't want it skewed to one side).

-shaun

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Michael

07-18-2003 05:02:43




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 Re: Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Shaun, 07-17-2003 23:57:00  
Just to make sure, there are bars that go from the top link to the the top pin on the tractor where the spring is located (these are usually adjustable), and there are bars (almost always a single piece of steel) that go from the pin below the axle to the lower links on the 3 pt. instrument.



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Michael

07-18-2003 05:06:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Michael, 07-18-2003 05:02:43  
Sorry, I meant that the adjustable bars from the top link usually go to a drawbar across the ends of the lift arms. The only stay bars are usually non-adjustable steel bars from the pins below the axle to the two links on the instrument. You could have been trying to use the adjustable stays in place of the stays that are for the lower pins. This will not work without severely bending the adjustable stays. Good luck

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Shaun

07-18-2003 09:12:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Michael, 07-18-2003 05:06:36  
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Yep, these are for the lower attachments. Here's one of the only photos I found online - but it's small. I posted a better photo formerly in the archives but wasn't sure where.

TSC's site mistakenly shows the solid bar as the photo for the adjustable - just as it did when I shopped for mine.

-shaun

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Rob N Va

07-18-2003 09:48:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Shaun, 07-18-2003 09:12:12  
Shaun, That's exactly what I bought. Just can't seem to figure out how they are supposed to go. I understand that they are supposed to go from the pins under the fender to the lower pins on the attachment. One of the eyes of the stabilizer bar has an angle that prevents it from going over both pins at the same time. I just want to make sure that I understand what everyone is saying; is that I have the wrong stabilizer bars for an 8n tractor. Does anyone have a picture of the right set up and the right bars? Thanks again for being patient with me, and for the advise! ---Rob

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Shaun

07-18-2003 11:32:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Rob N Va, 07-18-2003 09:48:55  
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Rob -

Optimumly, each end would have a slight opposite directional bend in it because the bar has to come in toward the center line of the tractor as it extends back to the implment. Being that the pins are all mounted parallel with the center line of the tractor, a slight bend on each end (making a VERY slight "s" shape compensates for a wide pin arrangement on the axle that is trying to reduce to a narrower pin arrangment on the implement). Because all of these parts have a little play, I found that the adjustable bars - which you and I have - work but the one end that IS bent must be "unbent" a little to make the fit. So, I simply attached my ends under the axle and then pulled them outward on the implment end. Those ends then fit on my hog pins. I had longer pins there for my own chain set-up so I had to pull the pin, position the bar, and then slide the pin back in but this is just because I'm running long pins there.

Here's a diagram that helps explain what I did.

-shaun

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Rob

07-18-2003 09:59:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Rob N Va, 07-18-2003 09:48:55  
The linch pins on the brackets under the fenders point inboard. The angle iron bracket is set up with one flat on the wheel side. Hope that makes sense. The linch pins point inboard and are inside of the angle of the angle iron. That would be important to have right and you might have it backwards.
My rigid stab bars have a bend on each end, not just one end. You need to make an opposing bend on the straight end. Only a few degrees, someone said 7, just the opposite of the bend they came with. One of my bars fells of and was mistreated by the bush hog. I beat it back near shape and there is hardly any angle on one end and it fits fine, works good.
I thought those adjustable bars had a ball on the end.

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Rob N Va

07-18-2003 10:08:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Rob, 07-18-2003 09:59:50  
Rob, I hear what you are saying, but it seems to me that if both ends were straight (no angle) it would work too. Or does that throw off the geometry/defeat the purpouse? My next step was going to be trying to straightening out the bends, or going to TSC and getting another straight angle eye. Thanks again!---Rob



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Rob

07-18-2003 11:00:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Rob N Va, 07-18-2003 10:08:56  
The pins on the hog are not the same distance apart as the pins on the tractor. So some is correct. It the holes are big enough you don't need bend. 1" holes I believe.



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souNdguy

07-17-2003 20:47:27




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 Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Rob N Va, 07-17-2003 20:01:51  
Many of us here just get the one piece bars.. TSC stores sell some fairly inexpensive ones..squared off ends.. no bends..I have a set on my NAA, and my 8n... both fit fine on the drawbar with the lift arms and lynch pin...

Soundguy



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duey

07-17-2003 20:31:42




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 Re: Stabilizer Bars in reply to Rob N Va, 07-17-2003 20:01:51  
The cheapo set I bought does have a small bend on each end... helps form the triangle.

What I did wrong on mine was to install the angle brackets wrong the first time.... what that resulted in was interference when the 3 point was raised.... in fact limited the lift. Even put a small bend the 'hard way' in the stabilizer arms.

Turned the angles around and it's all better. duey



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