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Ron (OK)

08-04-2003 11:51:43




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I prefer to "road" my mower in the up position because the tail wheel wobbles violently at road speed. Depending on the weight of the implement, the hydraulic lift on my '47 2N leaks down in approximately 2-4 minutes after disengaging the PTO. From previous comments, this is normal for 2ns & 9Ns. I'm considering the Zane Thang position control. Will the Zane Thang maintain the lift in the up position after disengaging the PTO or shutting the tractor down?

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JerryU

08-05-2003 04:20:29




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 Re: Question for Zane Thang folks in reply to Ron (OK), 08-04-2003 11:51:43  
I run with the pto running but the driveshaft disconnected when going down the road. The Zane Thang will keep the mower up quite nicely.

JU



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Scott

08-04-2003 18:33:21




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 Re: Question for Zane Thang folks in reply to Ron (OK), 08-04-2003 11:51:43  
If you are using a chain instead of a solid bar as your upper link, couldn't you drop the mower to the ground and "burn" a couple of links?

If the chain is still tight with the mower on the ground, maybe back up to a ditch which will lift the rear of the mower up when it contacts the tail wheel, then tighten the chain?

If it's too difficult to re-adjust the top link chain mount, how about slipping a bolt thru two links in the chain, effectively shortening the chain?

Granted these will only work if you have a chain top link, and also your blade will be spinning while you are going down the road. I raise my tail wheel about 4 inches off the ground and head out in top gear but at low RPMs. Several people have told me it sounds like a 4 cyl Ford helicopter.

Scott

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Steve W.....let me jump i

08-04-2003 13:15:19




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 Re: Question for Zane Thang folks in reply to Ron (OK), 08-04-2003 11:51:43  
The Zane Thang will hold your mower, but your hog will need to be spinning. Once the pump is shut off, it will leak down just as before. Now if you had a Live Thang, and a Zane Thang, you'd be in business to shut off the mower.

Here's what I do. If I'm going less than a mile I just stop every couple hundred yards, engage the PTO til the mower hit's it's correct height (set by the Zane Thang), disengage, go until it drops, repeat.

If I am going a long way, I just unhook the PTO shaft, bungie it to the top link, and, with PTO engaged, just go.

As for a Zane Thang, here's the deal. This weekend, I wanted to put my cows out on a new, unmowed pasture. But first I wanted to gut the grass down to about a foot so they could get to the tender nutritious grass down low. Put the 5' Hog on , swt it at a foot, and, without the tail wheel on the ground, mowed the entire thing. I did not touch the quadrant lever once to adjust height.

Get a Zane Thang. It is awesome.

Take Care
Steve

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Steve IA

08-04-2003 12:40:26




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 Re: Question for Zane Thang folks in reply to Ron (OK), 08-04-2003 11:51:43  
Why not simply disconnect the PTO shaft and 'road' the mower for miles and miles with the PTO on? Get to the field, reconnect the PTO when you stop to open the gate. Steve 8N 169302



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ED-IL

08-04-2003 12:17:00




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 Re: Question for Zane Thang folks in reply to Ron (OK), 08-04-2003 11:51:43  
I agree that a Zane Thang won't hold it up, but rather a live thang would.

My method, however, is to disconnect the PTO shaft from the tractor while transporting my mower. With the PTO on, I get hydraulics and the blade isn't spinning..



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Ron (OK)

08-04-2003 12:40:14




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 Re: Re: Question for Zane Thang folks in reply to ED-IL, 08-04-2003 12:17:00  
Thanks for the input and ideas. My PTO shaft needs shortening so that it can be disconnected. Just another of those things I "plan" to get done. Been using limit chains on the hog, but can't seem to adjust the wobble from the tail wheel at road speed. The Zane Thang still sounds like a good tool for the boxblade. Wife says I'll have to wait until Christmas. We'll see.



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souNdguy

08-04-2003 12:10:54




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 Re: Question for Zane Thang folks in reply to Ron (OK), 08-04-2003 11:51:43  
The Zane thanng is only a position control scheme for the 9/2n tractors that were draft control only. Doesn't effect the hyd pump.

You may be thinking about a live thang... quite a bit more expensive, but essentially it is an engine driven hyd. pump plumbed into your existing N hydraulics, giving you hyd's when the clutch is in, or the pto isn't engaged. ( I believe if you have the pto engaged you esentially get 'twice' the flow rate, due to the extra pump working in conjunction with the internal one... but don't quote me on that one.. ).

Alternately, if you don't want to shell out the few hundred bucks for the live thang.. use chains... most of us use chains on our hogs, as our hyd's leak down so fast when you come to a stop, the hog hits the ground, etc... Just lift it where you want it, chain it up, disengage the pto and go. Alternately, you can keep the pto engaged, but just disconnect the pto shaft.

And by the way.. that 2-4 minutes of lift is well.. pretty darn good compaired to my 30-40 seconds before the implimint is on the ground on my 8n...

Soundguy

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DallasGa

08-04-2003 12:06:28




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 Re: Question for Zane Thang folks in reply to Ron (OK), 08-04-2003 11:51:43  
Ha Ron, Zane thang won't help there, you could make some check chains to hold it up while you travel.



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