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OT....Milky Oil

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Ron from IL

08-13-2003 07:15:54




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Hey Guys!

I know this is slightly OT, but I thought I'd throw it out anyway. I've been trying to sell an Allis Chalmers C for a while now. A guy came to look it over Saturday, even brought a trailer along. We started the tractor, he looked it over, and I think he was ready to take the plunge when he pulled the dipstick for the engine oil. It was slightly milky. He said, "You've got antifreeze in your oil". I said, "What?!"

Now, I think if there WAS really antifreeze in my oil, several things would be apparent:

1.) The oil level would have gone up (it hasn't).

2.) The antifreeze level in the radiator would have gone down (hasn't done that, either).

3.) If the head gasket was bad, it seems that there would be SOME sign of leakage on the outside of the block (nope!).

What do you all think? Am I full of it? I think (and I told him this) that I changed the oil last September, it sat all winter and spring (outside) and what he is seeing is nothing more than condensation from inside the block. The oil had no antifreeze smell, either.

TIA

Ron

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mark

08-14-2003 07:31:28




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 Re: OT....Milky Oil in reply to Ron from IL, 08-13-2003 07:15:54  
If there is anti freez in the oil let it set over night then slowly losen the drain plug and the water or anti freez will come out first. A small amount due to condesation is no big deal as long as all of the oil is not milky.



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Rob

08-13-2003 15:49:57




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 Re: OT....Milky Oil in reply to Ron from IL, 08-13-2003 07:15:54  
If your breather cap is bad, the element rotted or otherwise gone, you can see that problem. You might see that milky stuff in the oil fill tube also. You can put a new breather or element on there and then run her long enough to evap all the moisture out of the oil and she will be good to go.



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ATW/WA

08-13-2003 11:46:02




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 Re: OT....Milky Oil in reply to Ron from IL, 08-13-2003 07:15:54  
Ron, I'm sorry you lost a potential customer. Change oil, run the tractor for a little excursion and recheck oil. For your own peace of mind, let the old oil sit for a couple of days then pour it off into another container. If there was a significant amount of oil, it will have separated and water will be visible in the bottom of the container. You would not want to misrepresent a tractor to someone, only to have them come back at you for future repair. Nor would you want them to smear your name in the community. Give the tractor a good check out, lube and oil, clean air breather,clean and tight electrical system, have various implements available for the prospective buyer to utilize in testing the tractor. Let the tractor sell it self, both parties will walk away with a better feeling knowing the tractor was presented at her best and not misrepresented.

ATW/WA

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Jeff in Va.

08-13-2003 08:53:30




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 Re: OT....Milky Oil in reply to Ron from IL, 08-13-2003 07:15:54  
I agree. I have seen milky oil as well (in autos) that in my opinion comes from condensation caused by rapid changes in temperature. I had it in my pickup once in the winter...have yet to see it again (70,000 miles later).



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bepfeff

08-13-2003 07:25:26




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 Re: OT....Milky Oil in reply to Ron from IL, 08-13-2003 07:15:54  
My humble opinion is that there is water build up in the system, and if you drain the oil and put in fresh, the issue goes away. I bought a Case DC recently and had the same issue. Not a big deal, and I do not think you have antifreeze in the oil.



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