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how to keep tractor from pulling to right on the r

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allan b.

08-20-2003 22:11:26




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i have been working on my tractor, wheb i had the front end on the lift,i noticed the left wheel was pointing toe out severely to the left. it was also eating rubber off the center rib on left tire on the inside, i had been driving it to a job on the highway,3 days at 14miles a day. the tractor did not pull to either side.anyway i straightened out to toe in like the manual said, the right wheel was already at correct toe in. now on the highway it pulls to the right, not real hard,but you cant let go of the steering wheel for a second. just agrivating, could it be that the center rib on the left tire is not straight and makes it pull to the right. or do i have to toe in the right tire even though its darn close to right on. or should i just put it back to the way it was and not worry about the rubber. now most of my driving will be in the yard. how can a tire on the left be so toe out and drive without pulling, there is suppose to be factory marks on the spindle to show where its suppose to be out of the factory. i cant find themm. can someone help me out again. i hope i explained it well enough. the tractor seems to be straight when i eye it front and back, havent had anyone that knows how to drive a tractor to drive it down the road for me, so i can check , help , allan b.

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duey

08-21-2003 15:33:56




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 Re: how to keep tractor from pulling to right on t in reply to allan b., 08-20-2003 22:11:26  
You may have answered the question yourself.... if one of the tires is worn really uneven. Do this: swap the front wheels with each other, then go drive it & see what the difference is.

Maybe you could just bolt the worn on backwards for a short time.....

Badly worn tires do 'un-normal' things. Post back what happens. duey



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'Ole Henry' (Va)

08-21-2003 05:56:08




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 Re: how to keep tractor from pulling to right on t in reply to allan b., 08-20-2003 22:11:26  
Allan, the others have given good advise, I'll just add that most roads, especially rural, are "crown" type meaning they are higher in the middle and slope to both sides to allow for water drainage. This will have a tendency to make a vehicle pull slightly to the side you are driving on. Not very noticeable with power stearing but more so without. Try what bg said about driving on the left and if it pulls to the left, your adjustments are probably ok, just the road doing the pulling.

Careful when on the left side.....John A

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Hobo,NC

08-21-2003 04:37:41




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 Re: how to keep tractor from pulling to right on t in reply to allan b., 08-20-2003 22:11:26  
Find center of steering as BG says. After you find center aligne both front tires with rear tires by standing infront of tractor and looking to make sure the are straigh with the rears. After you get both aligned with rears then adj toe, by adlusting both fronts the same amount. A set of turn tables would be nice to have. With out them just have someone to hold the sterring wheel or lock or tie it down so it does not move wile you make the adjustment. Have you ever seen them set up a race car with a string. Thats what they are doing is setting up the fronts with the rear. That string don't lie. Don't think you will need to get that hige tech. if i were going to run highway as much as you I would get it set correct. After doing hundreds of alignments it comes easy to just look down the tires and get the toe set with the rears. Still have the old bear lite-oline and these newer 4 wheel alignment machines can't touch it. Stop salesman in their tracks when they tell me you can not do a 4 wheel alignment, I say my alignment machine does not no the front from the rear and my string and yard stick don't lie. A bent radius arm or axle will cause it to pull. It would change the caster. Camber should have no efect on pullin angle unless it was realy way out but you would see that. It would pull to the side that is bent.

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allan b.

08-21-2003 15:01:09




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 Re: Re: how to keep tractor from pulling to right in reply to Hobo,NC, 08-21-2003 04:37:41  
thanks again everyone. i did try driving on the right side , it did help a little but not enough to compensate. i almost had 25 head-on collisions doing it. Just kidding. i heard you are suppose to have both drag links or tie rods the same lenght , is that true in all circomstances. nothing is bent on the tractor. also i do have a bit on give in the steering collumn so fine adjustments arent going to be exact, i am talking this tire i adjusted was at least 2 inches toe out. and did not pull. i should still bring it in at least one more inch, then i will try the string and ruler , it sounds like a good idea. thanks all for your input. allan b.

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Mike

08-21-2003 08:47:06




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 Re: Re: how to keep tractor from pulling to right in reply to Hobo,NC, 08-21-2003 04:37:41  
Hey Hobo,
You can also use a pair of yardsticks and a pair of vice grips. Keep smilin'.

Mike



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Craig

08-21-2003 07:01:03




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 Re: Re: how to keep tractor from pulling to right in reply to Hobo,NC, 08-21-2003 04:37:41  
Hey Hobo,
I picked up a set of alignment heads and turntables a while back. I need to know how to use them. Can you give me some pointers?
Use my email.Thanks!



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Hobo,NC

08-21-2003 09:19:27




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 Re: Re: Re: how to keep tractor from pulling to ri in reply to Craig, 08-21-2003 07:01:03  
Give name brand and do thay use charts. Some or hub mounted and some or rim mounted. Have not used hub mount type.



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Craig

08-21-2003 18:50:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: how to keep tractor from pulling t in reply to Hobo,NC, 08-21-2003 09:19:27  
They say Bee-Line, probably made by some other manufacturer. I have them burried and can't get to them right now. The clamp on the rim. I remember a dial and a window. They have a long extension to the front with a mirror, I think they shine a light beam from one side to the other and also to the rear wheels where there is a graduated scale to be attached to each rear wheel. This must be to set toe-in.
Try my email above then we can directly communicate.

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Hobo,NC

08-21-2003 04:54:52




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 Re: Re: how to keep tractor from pulling to right in reply to Hobo,NC, 08-21-2003 04:37:41  
To get 1/4" toe set each side 1/8" = 1/4' If it still pulls switch tires if pull changes its in the tire. don't think theirs enoufh tread contact with the road to be in a tire.



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Hobo,NC

08-21-2003 04:57:33




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 Re: Re: Re: how to keep tractor from pulling to ri in reply to Hobo,NC, 08-21-2003 04:54:52  
I am out of here got a big day ahead of me. going to go grab a hold of a few plug wires to get me going.



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ATW/WA

08-21-2003 00:54:06




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 Re: how to keep tractor from pulling to right on t in reply to allan b., 08-20-2003 22:11:26  
Allan, What BG says and,,,, check tire pressure, make sure it's even side to side.

ATW/WA



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bg

08-20-2003 23:06:54




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 Re: how to keep tractor from pulling to right on t in reply to allan b., 08-20-2003 22:11:26  
The toe-in should be set with the steering wheel in the middle of its travel. If it takes 5.5 turns lock-to lock, turn it 2.75 turns from either full right or full left and adjust the toe-in. Set the front edge 1/4" narrower than the back edge. If you're driving on the right side of a paved road, there is a camber to the road that will make it seem like it's pulling to the right. Drive on the left side of the road and see if it pulls to the left. If it still pulls to the right, check the brake adjustment, assuming you have toe-in right.

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allan b.

08-21-2003 23:08:35




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 Re: Re: how to keep tractor from pulling to right in reply to bg, 08-20-2003 23:06:54  
i want to thank you all for the in-put, i have a feeling one of you hit it on the mark. i have not had a chance to check it. fist i want to make sure the steering is centered, and the wheels are straight and then cambered. i did do some brake adjustments , while i had it on blocks. i did what the mznual said. but i believe i have better holding power on my right brake. so it may drag just enough to pull the tractor to the right. we will see. i will let you know . thanks again for taking the time to help. all those years of knowledge, i just hope i can help someone someday.

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