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Roto-tillers and N tractors

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9n141

08-27-2003 18:46:55




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I put my 42" Brush-hog brand roto-tiller on an 8N with totally machined & rebuilt engine, o/u Sherman trans. The ground speed is TO FAST, low gear in under drive @ 2000 rpm (pto speed 540), very close to same speed as first gear direct drive @ 1550 rpm. My 17 HP Kubota HST drives this with ease, my 801 SOS drives it crazy, my ferguson TO35 works O.K. in low gear. I read an earlier post that someone was asking about running 5' tiller with a "N" tractor, I respectfully submit that 5' tiller would make my 801 SOS grunt (and is double the HP of a "N"). I welcome everyones ideas on this. BURT.

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Rich, NJ

08-28-2003 05:38:32




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 Re: Roto-tillers and N tractors in reply to 9n141, 08-27-2003 18:46:55  
Yup, this is why the "rare and Fragile" Howard auxiliary transmission was developed and offered as an add on. If you have a plate with a lever that is very similiar to the PTO lever only on the right side of your tractor. And if this plate says "Rotary Hoes, Essex England" Then you are a proud owner of a rare and fragile Howard. Do not try to pull stumps with it, they don't call them fragile for nothing. I have tried to record the speed of the machine with this engaged and I believe it took me about three minutes to go the length of my driveway, about 130 feet. It's SLOW! If anyone would like to really know what the groundspeed is, I'll run it over a length and accuratly time it. Another feature of the Howard is that it doesn't affect the PTO speed. I also have the original "Rotovator" that came with the machine. It was 51 inches wide. This would indicate that both Howard and Ford had come to the conclusion that a four foot cut was about all the machine could comfortably take. Howard is still in business in Australia, However when I inquired about the transmission, No one was even aware that they had ever made them. Sad, an updated version might be useful. I thought you might like to know . Regards, Rich

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Big Mike

08-28-2003 02:57:07




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 Re: Roto-tillers and N tractors in reply to 9n141, 08-27-2003 18:46:55  
To roto-till you need to go slow...too fast and it will bog down the tractor. My solution to till behind a N series would be a Sherman Combo in low gear and speed up the pto by means of adding a large sprocket driving another smaller idler sprocket by means of a chain with pto attached to smaller sprocket. It could be built but it still might have too much ground speed.I worked on an 8N tractor for an eldery gentelman last year it had the howard tiller gears but I fiddled with the lever and it seemed to be broken or disconnected. I was hoping it was still operational so i could do a comparision of ground speed between it and the sherman step down in the 2n that we have. I use the 1973? John Deere 140 hydrostatic lawn tractor with rear mount tiller for my tilling. Any bigger jobs would call for dragging out the Dearborn 2 bottom and and 6 foot disc and using them....Big Mike

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gatractorman

08-28-2003 02:46:38




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 Re: Roto-tillers and N tractors in reply to 9n141, 08-27-2003 18:46:55  
Contrary to popular belief the N series does not do everything well, the only time I have saw an N run a tiller with some success was when it was pulling a Howard brand tiller, it had an auxillary transmission on the tiller so you could slow the engine RPM's but still maintain the tine speed.



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