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Andy MN

01-15-2001 07:06:26




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Should I be using a lead replacement product in the fuel for my 9N?




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TimK

01-16-2001 14:35:17




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 Re: Lead Replacer in reply to Andy MN, 01-15-2001 07:06:26  
Use it if it makes you happy. The manufacturer of the stuff will also be happy. Otherwise, no.



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Bill In Houston

01-15-2001 10:04:00




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 Re: Lead Replacer in reply to Andy MN, 01-15-2001 07:06:26  
Andy;

Lead is a octane booster. Octane is a unit of measure of the anti-knock properties of fuel. The idea is to reduce pre-ignition, also known as "knocks". that is the condition of the fuel in the cylinder igniting too soon. (on the up stroke causing the engine to want to spin in reverse and hence the "knock". This puts a tremendous strain in the engine and is a big hit on power) pre-ignition it usually caused by hot spots in the cylinder, e.g. carbon deposits. A couple of ways to prevent this is to reduce compression or raise the octane. Hi performance engines tend to have high compression. An 9n, 2n and early 8n engine had a compression ratio of 6:1. That is considered a low compression ratio. later 8n's had a compression ratio of 6.5:1 also a low ratio. The RPMs are governed to 1500-2000. These engines are built for reliability, not performance. Therefore there is no need for lead in the fuel. I am not convinced the seats would benefit from the lead.

P.S. Continental and Lycoming make some very expensive engines for light aircraft. The compression ratios are slightly higher but the rated RPMs are 2,000- 2400. Also for reliability, not performance. But they still need to be overhauled after 2000 hours. The fords will go longer, if properly maintained.

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Bill

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albe

01-15-2001 08:16:01




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 Re: Lead Replacer in reply to Andy MN, 01-15-2001 07:06:26  
I agree with others that there is no need for TEL road mix in gasoline for the octane requirements of tractor engines. I would however, be concerned with exhaust valve seat recession if engines are not fitted with hardened seat inserts if the tractor is used at high engine loads for extended periods of time such as plowing, etc. Just my 2 cents. albe



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I use bismuth

01-15-2001 07:44:56




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 Re: Lead Replacer in reply to Andy MN, 01-15-2001 07:06:26  
Oh, you were talking about in the gas! Sorry!



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bg

01-15-2001 07:33:32




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 Re: Lead Replacer in reply to Andy MN, 01-15-2001 07:06:26  
Read this article on the History of Lead. It was researched and written by a vintage-car owner.



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Redbelly1

01-15-2001 07:21:22




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 Re: Lead Replacer in reply to Andy MN, 01-15-2001 07:06:26  
According to the Guru's of this board, which are wiser that I, there is no need to.

Check the archives on this subject.

Had your tractor long?



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Andy MN

01-15-2001 10:33:29




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 Re: Re: Lead Replacer in reply to Redbelly1, 01-15-2001 07:21:22  
Long enough to know there is a world of stuff I don't know. I am not a mechanic I am a salesman who wants to be a tree farmer.



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Redbelly1

01-16-2001 04:43:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Lead Replacer in reply to Andy MN, 01-15-2001 10:33:29  
I hope you have as much fun using yours as i have had with mine.
But be careful, especially if your new to using a tractor. One mistake can be deadly. I've had one friend killed since i bought my N about a year ago. She worked with tractors for years, and last year,while bushhoggin, she forgot to set the brake when she got off to move a stump in front of the tractor. The tractor rolled over her and stopped with the bushhogg on top of her.

They are fun, but must be respected.

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Greg in Nebraska

01-16-2001 12:02:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Lead Replacer in reply to Redbelly1, 01-16-2001 04:43:43  
Set the Brake?

Don't tell me my 8N has an emergency brake that I didn't know about?

Thanks,

Greg



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Redbelly1

01-16-2001 13:33:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lead Replacer in reply to Greg in Nebraska, 01-16-2001 12:02:11  
An 8N should have a brake lock for each side brake pedal. Look under your seat, down on the side of the belly. When you push the pedal down, you should be able to engage the latch into one of the notches. To disengage, mash the pedal hard and release the latch.
Its possible your latch has been taken/fallen off.



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Beekeeper

01-15-2001 07:19:42




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 Re: Lead Replacer in reply to Andy MN, 01-15-2001 07:06:26  
Honestly, I do not use it, I feel it is "exhausted" money.

I have tried it in the past and have not seen any change in performance.



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