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Yes, I agree on the matter of the countershaft turning, and powering the hydraulic pump, and I further (correctly) elaborated that the tranny gears are turning, and meshing also, which explained Salmoneye's comment. No spuds here, just the facts. The 8N is rather unusual for it's era in that it had a constant mesh transmission, and that means a number of extra moving parts in the transmission that need good lubrication. In the older N's, the gears not being used are simply shoved out of mesh, and are splined to the upper or lower transmission shaft so they turn along with the lower shaft in neutral, or in gear, and the upper gears turn along with the shaft when the tractor is moving in any gear. On the 8N, due to the constant mesh design, they remain meshed, and there is rotation relative to the shaft they are mounted on, and lube is needed. (Don't ask me how I know lube is needed!) I have a Massey 35 tractor, which is a sliding gear transmission, similar to the 9N and 2N, and I sure like the ease of shifting better on my 8N!
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