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PhilipH

09-21-2003 18:54:05




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I am simply amazed at the information available at this site. Here is a question I hope a few of you will offer opinions on. I am looking for a small tractor to do garden plowing. I am looking at an 8N that is currently being rebuilt completely. (Right now it is in about 4 different piles in the guy's shop). I don't personally know the guy doing the rebuilding, but he says he has done about 40 old tractors. He isn't making them into collectors items, just working tractors. This is a 1950 8N, new tires, new grill, new engine parts. Is an 8N a good idea for someone like me who doesn't know a lot about old tractors, but who wants a small tractor for using rather than collecting? Thanks to anyone who would like to offer up an opinion.

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Jim in Pa.

09-23-2003 16:51:07




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 Re: 8N in reply to PhilipH, 09-21-2003 18:54:05  
Phillip, Last thanksgiving we moved from the city to two grassy acres and I contemplated what to buy to mow, clear snow, and possibly do some landscaping. I'm mechanically inclined but knew nothing about tractors. Our previous mower was a 19" B&D electric.
My two nearest neighbors each had about 7 grand wrapped up in garden tractor/snow blower combos.
After deliberating all winter,(thanks, Mark & Carmen, for blowing my snow!) talking to anyone who had an opinion, and making my wife a computer widow,(thanks, everybody here!) I decided to look for an 8N, preferably with a Sherman step up/down tranny. After going to some sales, I bought the first one I found with a Sherman, it's about a '50 with a "Ford Remanufactured" tag on the engine,not bad sheet metal, faded blue/gray paint that was probably applied to match the body to the reman. engine. It was a dealer trade at the local Kubota lot. I printed out the checklist from the Smith's most excellent "N" site and went through it step by step right there with the tractor in front of me. Made them remove the cement mixer from the 3-point hitch before I arrived (had it's own hydraulics and required the tractor hydraulics to be locked out.) Most things checked out, hyd. pump knocked a little, rear axle seals leaked on brakes. They were firm on price but promised to give it a going over and replace the oil gauge and battery and include a top link. I paid $2895, they delivered for free at their convenience. While waiting for delivery, got a 6' blade at auction for $30, the weekend after it arrived we got our last snow and I cleared 5 driveways in the neighborhood (Never been so happy to clear snow). Got a Sauder front end loader since for $15, have yet to mount it. Tecma 6' finish mower, about $1200 new. With summer's heat it began cooking over, $20 for a pressure flush at the radiator shop cleaned out most of the rust flakes but it's due again. A month ago it got real loud, ran crappy, the exh. manifold gasket blew on #4, took it apart to find the manifold warped & cracked. Bought a repro. manifold, ported & polished it, new muffler, tune up kit, carb rebuild kit, cost about $180 and it runs strong, mowed foot plus high grass, clover and raspberries in the neighbor's field without complaining. Sometime this fall, I hope to put in new axle seals and brakes. Maybe paint & body too. My advice to you is to gauge your mechanical ability, free time, and interest in old machines against the N's ability to do the jobs you want it to do. There're sometimes newer/better/heavier tractors in the same price range. It won't run a rototiller, even though you can mount one to it, but will use almost anything for cat. 1 three point hitch that you can drag home in a pickup bed. If those two match up, check out the the tractor once it's assembled and running, a deposit should hold it 'till then. There's lots of advice in the archives on what to look for. If you buy an "N" you'll have a collector's item that's also useful, versatile, and easy to work on and should never be worth less than you paid for it. I'm glad I did.

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Steve Mahler

09-23-2003 14:16:15




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 Re: 8N in reply to PhilipH, 09-21-2003 18:54:05  
I will give the advice of someone like you - I just bought my first N - from someone who rebuilt it, on this board.

1) "Ready to work, needs no repairs" is probably a joke when referring to antique tractors.
2) "Work done by professional mechanic" is no better than "Work done by blind nun" in my opinion.

Expect that you will have to work on your N at first to get things sorted out, and then a bit over time depending on luck, and how much you use it. I dont think anyone should buy a 50 year old machine and expect it to operate like the family car. More of a project/tool/hobby kind of thing.

I bought mine expecting to work on it alot, work with it a bit. So far, I have worked on it nearly every night (I am new at this, remember) and havent done a useful thing WITH it. But to me that is half the fun.

Good luck, and please set your expectations (and your wife's if applicable) appropriately.

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Johnny

09-22-2003 12:56:22




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 Re: 8N in reply to PhilipH, 09-21-2003 18:54:05  
Good for plowing. Not good for tilling. Ground speed to fast and PTO too slow. I would say a ballpark price of $2,500, in good condition but not perfect.



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Evil Steve

09-22-2003 07:50:58




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 Re: 8N in reply to PhilipH, 09-21-2003 18:54:05  
Ns are good little tractors but do have limitations. And, they tend to be a little over priced because they are becoming collector tractors more and more every day.

In So Central Texas you can get a later Ford 601 or 801, a Fergie T30, MFs, and many other more modern tractors for as much or even less than an N. Chances are from your description, the guy's gonna want a lotta $ for his 8N. If the guy knows what he's doing mechanically, then $3000 is an okay price where I am. I can find not pretty but good working 8Ns down here for $2000-2500.

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PhilipH

09-22-2003 17:55:23




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 Re: Re: 8N in reply to Evil Steve, 09-22-2003 07:50:58  
The guy quoted $3100 for it. I have no idea if he knows what he is doing in rebuilding it. I am just going by what he said. How would I know if he is good at this? And thanks for all the helpful comments.



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souNdguy

09-22-2003 04:55:48




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 Re: 8N in reply to PhilipH, 09-21-2003 18:54:05  
What the others said, and I'll add this. Watch out for price. If this unit is rebuilt.. get an idea for what it is worth. 'Running/working' condition N's vary widely in price based upon geography and availability. Anywhere from 1200... runs and rough looking to 4000 parade queens.
Check out your local tractor scene and get an idea of prices.

Soundguy



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Fast Ed Ohio

09-21-2003 21:19:41




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 Re: 8N in reply to PhilipH, 09-21-2003 18:54:05  
Im not a gung hoe Ford type person ,how ever I am very impressed at how well the old 8n pulls the 2 bottom plow ( when set properly) . A set of discs and harrows helps break up and level the ground for planting . If it snows a lot in your area a back blade will come in handy for pushing snow out of the driveway. Im thinking its the best old tractor for the buck. Most parts are no problem, when needed .My 2 cents worth .

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john

09-21-2003 19:11:05




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 Re: 8N in reply to PhilipH, 09-21-2003 18:54:05  
great little tractor
easy to fix
great for plowing
perfect tractor for you



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