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Old George

01-17-2001 08:02:58




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I came across this post from the past and still find it interesting. With all the new people since last year I hope nobody minds me bringing it up again. Does anybody actually know how many have been shipped and if they have got past the test farm phase?




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Old George

01-21-2001 06:43:45




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 Re: Old topic/looking for new opinions in reply to Old George, 01-17-2001 08:02:58  
Trust me, I don't like to see anynone starve, but I thinks it is stupid to send any of these American treasures anywhere. What I like is the idea of reproducing the old N's. The genius of the simplicity and reliability of these machines is remarkable. I understand the safety issues but h@ll, "tractors don't kill people,..." Oh well I was just wandering...



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Johnny

01-18-2001 18:31:41




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 Re: Old topic/looking for new opinions in reply to Old George, 01-17-2001 08:02:58  
George, The article stated that there was not a private farmer using one yet,I think folks would get behind things if it was proven to them that their tractor would actually be doing some good and not just collecting rust. We are so blessed here in America but we also have been duped many times over in the past. If I really knew that my donation could do some good I'd be all for it. Also, Why would someone here in America be against folks in Africa being able to feed themselves? That is the most selfish thing that I have ever heard of!! Welcome to America, where we treat our children like dogs and our dogs like children. George, I'd be willing to give up a tractor or two If it were proven to be doing some good. There is a saying that goes something like this: "I thought I had it bad because I had no shoes until I met a man with no feet." Johnny Dyer

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Brad

01-18-2001 19:59:37




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 Re: Re: Old topic/looking for new opinions in reply to Johnny, 01-18-2001 18:31:41  
I went back through the posts and I didn't see anyone wanting to deny Africans the right to feed themselves. What I did see were people that realized the futility of giving mechanically unsophisticated people equipment that they won't be able to repair when it breaks down. Day after day here on this forum we see literate, computer savvy people that find it almost impossible to repair the dirt simple electrical and hydraulic systems that the N series tractors are equipped with, even with the help of experts such as Claus and Zane. How long do you think it would take to teach basic mechanical skills to people that haven't even figured out how to strap their digging tool to the back of a musk ox? If you wanted to be effective and use obsolete farm equipment you might be better off copying John Deere's original plow design and giving them instruction on how to plow using animals that they are capable of breeding and training.

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Dumb Logger

01-17-2001 17:36:09




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 Re: Old topic/looking for new opinions in reply to Old George, 01-17-2001 08:02:58  
Exporting classic tractors??? What kind demented, feel good, liberal come up with that? Makes as much sense as melting guns for scrap. If they really wanted to help, send some of them U.N. approved, imported things that you are supposed to be able to get parts for world wide, but leave our American classics here where they belong. However there are a lot of them green and yellow things out there...but they probably won,t be going to parades. my .02

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Old George/Adding a little fuel to this discussion...

01-17-2001 13:53:22




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 Re: Old topic/looking for new opinions in reply to Old George, 01-17-2001 08:02:58  
...below are results of archive search that brought up last years discussion of this topic. I hope the link works, I have not had much luck with links to the archives. If not maybe someone can help me.



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Old George/Sorry! ignore the one above and try this one

01-17-2001 13:57:12




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 Re: Re: Old topic/looking for new opinions in reply to Old George/Adding a little fuel to this discussion..., 01-17-2001 13:53:22  
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Scott

01-17-2001 11:26:21




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 Re: Old topic/looking for new opinions in reply to Old George, 01-17-2001 08:02:58  
George-

As my grandpa used to tell me, you never know how poor you are until sombody explains it to you.

Maybe that gal that works 40+ hours a week could find some tractor manufacturer outside of the US to give these people equipment. If we keep the units out of the US we won't have to pay twice what they're worth, give them free gas, and spend 1.5 million on each unit in the governmental crap.

Scott

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Claus

01-17-2001 09:39:58




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 Re: Old topic/looking for new opinions in reply to Old George, 01-17-2001 08:02:58  
Only a mentally handicapped person would think that such a program could succeed. The first time the tractor had a problem, that is the place it would rot for the next 50 years. Let's keep our cheriched tractors where they are in good hands. Let't send some more food to Somalia...duh...
Happy Motoring
CLaus



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Brad

01-17-2001 08:34:12




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 Re: Old topic/looking for new opinions in reply to Old George, 01-17-2001 08:02:58  
Looks like another feel good/ do nothing program. Were they planning to stay there and provide support? I bet the mechanical learning curve for some guy using a club with a metal blade for cultivation is enormous. Were they planning to stick around four or five years to teach these people? How is parts availability in Africa? Thay going to keep a used parts pipeline open? A lot of parts for these tractors are just not available new. For $10,000 they would have been better off buying a Mahindra or something like that factory direct, at least if they busted a lift cover or pitched a rod though the block they'd stand a chance of getting a part without waiting for their neighbors tractor to break down. Sounds like another college boy brain fart to me.

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Larry

01-17-2001 15:50:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Old topic/looking for new opinions in reply to Jim (MO), 01-17-2001 08:59:41  
I like that people are passionate enough to want to help under-developed countries,everybody needs to eat.These people aren't the only ones dealing with back-breaking farm work .Think of our american ancestors who worked in the same way-until they figured out better ways of doing things.From teams of horsesto modern day farm machinery.What will happen next?They will learn farming the modern way,thanks to our machinery,and sell grain back to us for half the amount we can grow it in our own backyards.There is something really wrong with that.Lets help people out ,but let's not GIVE away everything that makes us american farmers.The whole world learns farming from us.My late grandfather was a farmer and would be very upset!Just remember the cost of living is every penny you get your hands on,because thats what it costs to live.

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