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Alan - MN

09-22-2003 19:17:27

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I have a '51 8N. I also have a 3-bottom Allis Chalmer plow. I'd like to modify it to a 3-point. Has anyone done this? I think I can weld two brackets to each end of the main front bar of the plow which I can put the two 3-point pins on. Then weld a bracket on top for the top link. The measurements all seem to work. Just a little nervous about converting it and it actually working! The other big question is can the 8N handle a 3-bottom? I could remove one of the blades and make it a 2-bottom. Never plowed before so not sure what I'm getting into. Any advice out there would be greatly appreciated.

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Alan - MN

09-23-2003 15:54:26

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Re: Allis Chalmer 3-Bottom Plow in reply to Alan - MN, 09-22-2003 19:17:27

Thanks. After reading these responses and gatheing some info from some local farmers, it appears this 3-bottom will be more work than it's worth and do more harm than good. I'm selling the A-C plow and on the hunt for a 2-bottom 3-point plow. It's just not worth the risk or hurting my good 'ole 8N. Thanks for the advice. Close one.

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2fordsmike

09-23-2003 13:40:21

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Re: Allis Chalmer 3-Bottom Plow in reply to Alan - MN, 09-22-2003 19:17:27

Alan: (1)Your A-C plow is likely 50 years old and not all of them worked good in all soils for all farmers when new. A worn plow with worn parts may not plow good even when adjusted by an experienced plowman. (2) The workings of a three-point hitch for a plow appear simple, yet the adjustments built into the hitches are crucial.(3) I have seen a number of plows converted to a three-point hitch from some other type of hitch and I have yet to see a good one. Mike-Iowa

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Rick H. Ga.

09-23-2003 05:18:55

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Re: Allis Chalmer 3-Bottom Plow in reply to Alan - MN, 09-22-2003 19:17:27

Hi Alan,

When I bought by 49 8N in 1977, I didn�t get any implements with it. One of my neighbors had for sale a four disc tiller (similar to bottom plow). I was excited about buying a plow for my 8N. I drove the 8N to the neighbors place, hooked up the 4 disc tiller and headed to my field (the 8N lift did lift it OK). I got a surprise when I started plowing the field. The 8N would just go in circles with the front end almost off the ground. I found out by trial and error that the 8N is a 2-bottom or 2-disc tiller tractor and no more.

I have an old Ferguson 2-bottom plow and the N pulls it fine. I have had a 2-disc tiller that the N pulled fine.

You might do like I did; just try it and see. HTH. Rick H. Ga.

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Ultradog MN

09-22-2003 20:46:26

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Re: Allis Chalmer 3-Bottom Plow in reply to Alan - MN, 09-22-2003 19:17:27

Your N wont pull 3 bottoms. Period.
Is it a mounted plow or a trailer plow?
If it is a trailer plow like the good ones that Oliver or JD made you might drop one share and pull it with a drawbar like it's supposed to.
If it is a mounted plow you might weld up a rig to attach the Allis Snap Coupler to your 3 point.
But you still wouldn't the easy adjustments nor have the draft control that these little Ns set the standards in farming for.
Myself, I wouldn't cobble another brand of implement to fit onto an N. I'd sell it for more $ than you will pay for a more common Ford or Dearborn implement. Then buy the Right plow for my tractor and take the wife out to dinner with the difference.
Good luck

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Fast Ed Ohio

09-22-2003 23:43:26

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Re: Re: Allis Chalmer 3-Bottom Plow in reply to Ultradog MN, 09-22-2003 20:46:26

Im thinking you could pull a 3 point set shallow in soft ground , but then your just scratching and not plowing .Ultradog and Dell have the correct answer.

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good answer . . . Dell

09-22-2003 22:28:37

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Re: Re: Allis Chalmer 3-Bottom Plow in reply to Ultradog MN, 09-22-2003 20:46:26

Good 3-point 2-bottom plows $150-250. 23hp N's just don't have the power for 3-bottoms..... ..Dell

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Bob

09-23-2003 05:02:21

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Re: Re: Re: Allis Chalmer 3-Bottom Plow in reply to good answer . . . Dell, 09-22-2003 22:28:37

No problem in making 3 pt. But would drop one bottom. True it is easier to trade plows but one can pick up an Allis 3 bottom snap coupler plow cheaper than a 3 point. And Allis plows do good.

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fynney1

01-28-2006 17:51:31

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Allis Chalmer 3-Bottom Plow in reply to Bob, 09-23-2003 05:02:21

you say that the allis 3 bottom snap can be picked up? I would certainly like to find a 2-3 bottom for my 45 - within 3 hours of minneapolis. If you hear of someone wanting to sell one, send them my way.

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Eltigre

12-21-2006 19:49:29

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Allis Chalmer 3-Bottom Plow in reply to fynney1, 01-28-2006 17:51:31

I found plows for an Allis in Owatonna and in Monticello. I went on antiquetractors.com and posted a Wanted Ad. Got lots of bites in short time. I need a colter for my plow, anyone have an idea of how to find one?

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