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9N Fluid in Tires?

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SWB

09-25-2003 01:57:16




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I've got a '41 9N and the rear rims are shot. The tires aren't much good either so I'm gonna replace both. There's fluid in the tires now and I'm thinking of not replacing it. My question is will this tractor still plow & disk my garden and plow snow this winter without the added weight?




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R.M. In AL

09-25-2003 20:46:27




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 Re: 9N Fluid in Tires? in reply to SWB, 09-25-2003 01:57:16  
I guess this type of question is gonna be asked a lot as it gets colder,so here is MHO.Measure the width of your tire in inches.Next measure the highth of the tire from the top of the rim to the top of the tire.Next measure the length all way around the tire.This does not have to be perfect.Now multiply.LxWxH = Cu. Inches. There are 231 cu.in. in a gallon,so divide by 231.That gives you total gallons per tire.Put in about 1/3 Walmart Antifreeze and the rest water.If it cost 30 dollars per tire its worth it because you are through for at least 10 years..Just use a good type antifreeze not washer fluid...HTH R.M. In AL.

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fishbonz

09-25-2003 11:47:50




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 Re: 9N Fluid in Tires? in reply to SWB, 09-25-2003 01:57:16  
We've got two tractors on the farm. My Jubilee has fluid in them and the '59 651 doesn't. There is a difference in performance! The 651 won't hold the brush hog back going down the steep hills whereas mine does just fine. The box blade will cause it to spin out also.
So, we were talking to the adjacent landowner and he said he had his filled with methanol at the nearby bulk plant...anybody ever used this????

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Roland

09-25-2003 15:03:54




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 Re: Re: 9N Fluid in Tires? in reply to fishbonz, 09-25-2003 11:47:50  
Fishbonz; Hope you don't get a hole in your tires, a spark from your tractor are any where will light up your day! Be sure to have your running shoes on when you are on the possible bomb. But they will not freeze at any temp!!! This is to dangerous. Methanol is a verrrrr y explosive solvent. It is a DOT (department of transportation) regulated chemical because of it's volatile nature. Be real cearful when and if you work on the tires.

Roland

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stack

09-25-2003 15:57:02




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 Re: Re: Re: 9N Fluid in Tires? in reply to Roland, 09-25-2003 15:03:54  
I;m guessing the filling solution was a mix of methaol/water, say 50/50. This would be reasonably safe from the point of view of flammability. It's close to what's in the windshield washer solvent in your car. I suggest ethylene glycol if you can find a suitable bulk source and especially so if you can get it with the anticorrosion aditives used in permanent type antifreeze. A supplier of bulk fluids to truck fleets might be able to help. I've never done this and don't know what the cost would be but the corrosion of the rims should be no problem. Et(OH)2 is also denser than methanol. A 50/50 mix with water will not freeze at -40 (C or F). Keep spills away from pets and children, it tastes sweet and is poisonous (like methanol).

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Fishbonz

09-26-2003 02:30:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 9N Fluid in Tires? in reply to stack, 09-25-2003 15:57:02  
He used about 5 gal per tire...said it was cheaper than antifreeze. Sounds like a 33% mix. Our winters max out at -10 at it's worst, usually warmer. When he first said methanol I figured he was riding a WMD :) Bonz



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KWP

09-25-2003 08:02:43




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 Re: 9N Fluid in Tires? in reply to SWB, 09-25-2003 01:57:16  
WHEN I REPLACED MY ROTTED CANCERIOUS FILLED TIRES AND RIMS WITH NEW ONES 2 YEARS AGO,THE TREAD ON THE NEW WAS SO GOOD THAT I CHOOSE NOT TO FILL THEM. 45 DEGREE ANGLE LONG BAR TREAD ON EIGHT PLY TIRE, ALMOST THORN PROOF. I PLOW AND DISK SEVERAL GOOD SIZE DEER FEED PLOTS AND A GOOD SIZE GARDEN ALSO. A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE WINTER I MIGHT HAVE TO CLEAR SNOW FROM THE GRAVEL DRIVE ABOUT 200 YARDS LONG WITH NO TROUBLE. OUR PLACE IS IN NORTH CENTRAL OKLA. CHECK WITH TUCKER TIRES, OTHERS ON THIS BOARD HAVE RECOMMENDED THEM AND I BOUGHT MY TIRES FROM THEM, 2 TIRES TUBES AND RIMS, INSTALLED AND READY TO GO 540.00 SIZE 12.4x28 INCLUDING 2 DAY SHIPPING (EAST OF ROCKIES)50.00 MORE TO THE LEFT COAST. I THINK THE SMALLER 11.2x28 WERE 475.00 SHIPPED TO TO MY FARM ALL I HAD TO DO WAS PUT EM ON AND GO 800-443-0802.

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Rob N VA

09-25-2003 05:43:25




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 Re: 9N Fluid in Tires? in reply to SWB, 09-25-2003 01:57:16  
I took the fluid outta my tires when I replaced them, and I notice the difference. I can spin the tires a lot easier. I still think it is really, really hard to get it stuck without the added weight. I haven't tried snow removal yet, but it won't be long I think before I am giving the old gal a workout in the white stuff. Then I'll tell you my opinion on the weight.



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souNdguy

09-25-2003 04:44:25




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 Re: 9N Fluid in Tires? in reply to SWB, 09-25-2003 01:57:16  
Both napa and TSC sell a small adapter for adding water to tires.. it is usually under 10$... and attatches to a garden hose. It will only take a small amount of antifreeze to protect the water from freezing. To add the anti freeze, you'll probably have to use a funnel and tubing slipped over the air nipple.. with the valve removed. ( that side will be jacked up to keep weight off the tire/tube.

Add the antifreeze, then add the water... re-install valve core..top off with air to pressurize it.. good to go.

You might also consider using an environmentally safe antifreeze, especially if you have animals.

Some have reported using windshield fluid as an antifreeze. I don't have any specs on it so you'll have to do your own research there... but it is way cheap.

Soundguy

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SWB

09-25-2003 02:45:15




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 Re: 9N Fluid in Tires? in reply to SWB, 09-25-2003 01:57:16  
Okay...I've got smart and looked at the archives and found hundreds of posts both for and against calcium and other fluids. One question: if I use antifreeze, how do I get it in the tube? Is there some attachment for my compressor?



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Jeb2N

09-25-2003 03:46:55




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 Re: Re: 9N Fluid in Tires? in reply to SWB, 09-25-2003 02:45:15  
Usually, you would have this done at a tire store, preferably an Ag tire/tractor store as they have a special pump that will mix water and antifreeze, fill it with a certain volume (1/2 to 3/4 full) and then top it off with air. Since this would be a dedicated machine for pumping fluid into tires, I would not want to buy one. If you want fluid, just have them do it when they install the tires on the rims. Water is good for balast, but remember how difficult it is to handle a fluid filled tire. Also, My 2N worked just fine with fluid in only one rear wheel, so I imagine the traction benefit was minimal in my area.

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