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Randy

09-29-2003 09:33:38




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Hi folks, I have another question. Please bear with me as I am new to this GREAT machine. My '52
8N runs good, but when the throttle is in the full position and no load the RPMs are at 1700.
The operators manual states that it should be running at 2200rpm's. Also the throttle bar on the dash does'nt seem to do anything when it is moved in the first 1/3 position. The tractor idles up to this point then after that it starts to rev up. Seems to me it should rev up right when I start to move it up even a little, but it does not until its almost half way to full throtlle. Now for the question. I've read the I+T manual and the operators manual. They are both confusing to me.(I am new BUT trying to learn). They say that I can adjust two things, one being the maximum speed adjustment and to "shorten" the governer rod. I can't figure out how to do either of these. Can anyone give me their expertise in quick and easy "laymens" terms on how to do this, to get my full throttle rpms up to 2200. I just don't know where to start or how to really do the adjustments. Sorry for the long post and thanks for ANY help.
Thanks guy's....Randy

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Mike OH

09-29-2003 16:03:55




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 Re: RPM 2200 in reply to Randy, 09-29-2003 09:33:38  
Randy, I think you have an adjustment problem and with the help you have been give should get it resolved.

I couldn't get my 8N to idle at 400 RPM nor rev up to 2200 RPM. Found my only problem was with the tach. It wasn't accurated at the low and high ranges. Don't think the tach is your problem, but should not be overlooked. Solved my problem with an aftermarket tach and am well pleased with it. Good luck.

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David - OR

09-29-2003 11:10:03




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 Re: RPM 2200 in reply to Randy, 09-29-2003 09:33:38  
The governor can only retard the carburetor throttle butterfly. It's up to the linkage and spring to advance it.

Shut the tractor off. Move the hand throttle to full, then quickly move it to fully closed. The carb throttle plate should be on the idle speed stop screw. There should be no tension and no slack in the governor spring. Bend the hook on the end of the spring to adjust the static length of the spring.

Advance the hand control to half throttle. Watch the governor as you do this. The lever at the top of the spring should start to move almost immediately. If there is a lot of slack before anything happens down at the governor, the problem is in the linkage from the hand control to the governor arm. Check for worn rod ends or sloppy pivot pins. The rod going from the top of the engine down to the governor can be bent to eliminate some of the slack.

If the governor arm starts to move right away, then by the time the hand control is half open, the carb butterfly should be fully open. There should not be tension in the spring at this point. If there is tension, but the carb butterfly is not open, the governor is sticking internally or on the pivot pin. If there is not tension, and the carb butterfly is not fully open, then the rod from the governor to carb is too long, and it can be bent to shorten it.

Once the linkage works such that the carb throttle plate is on the idle stop with the hand control closed, and fully open at half throttle, you have the linkage sorted out. On to the governor.

Return the hand control to idle and start the tractor. Advance the throttle fully. Check RPMs with a tach. The RPMs should reach 2200. If they don't, shut the tractor down, and unscrew the max speed stop screw at the governor by a turn or so, and try again. If this has no effect, try "helping" the throttle plate at the carb open with your hand. If the engine now speeds up, you have sticky flyballs or a worn governor plate. If this does not help, you have a fuel flow problem or some sort of blockage at the air cleaner or tailpipe.

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bj/8n/mt

09-29-2003 10:29:03




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 Re: RPM 2200 in reply to Randy, 09-29-2003 09:33:38  
No response over the first third of the throttle quadrant is most likely a missadjusted governor throttle spring. Should have no slack and no tension at the bottom of the quadrant. You can follow Dell's suggestion about disconnecting the linkage to check into your 1700 rev limit but just out of curiosity why do you need to rev it beyond that?

Your mileage may vary



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Dell (WA)

09-29-2003 09:44:05




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 Re: RPM 2200 in reply to Randy, 09-29-2003 09:33:38  
Randy..... ....disconnect the spring-loaded governor end of the carb throttle rod. Now manually advance your carb throttle rod. Can you get 2200 rpms? no? its likely a distributor centrifical advance problem. yes? its likely a governor advance problem.

Because you report that you get NO engine advance when you advance the dash throttle lever until 1/3 advance...and...because you claim you can't get more than 1700 rpms with the governor connected, my experience would say "its yer governor" balls innna groove. Time for a rebuild..... ..Dell

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bigwheel(NY)

09-29-2003 18:57:31




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 Re: Re: RPM 2200 in reply to Dell (WA), 09-29-2003 09:44:05  
Several good explanations were given here for the 8N governor RPMs adjustment. Does this also apply to a 2N and which years?



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DON TX

09-30-2003 14:14:23




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 Re: Re: Re: RPM 2200 in reply to bigwheel(NY), 09-29-2003 18:57:31  
I think DAVID-ORs explanation is about a 9/2N, so the theory is the same just different looking parts involved. HTH
DON TX



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