Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Ford 9N, 2N & 8N Discussion Forum
:

re ; oil for transmission/ hydraulic fluid

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
alaln b.

09-30-2003 23:29:59




Report to Moderator

my question has been asked many times with just as many answers. i have a "9N" ford tractor, 1940. can someone plz tell me what are the best fluids for the Ford 9N Transmission. the original owners manual specified only two. they were straight mineral oil ( S.A.E. 90 ) above freezing. and ( S.A.E. 80 ) for below freeing. what about a gl-1 90 weight in winter and a gl-1 140 weight in summer. also on this forum it talks about ford m4864 mild ep gear oil, which conforms to api gear oil of gl3. this has additives of sulphur and phosphorus, which make it a better lubricant for transmission and for bevel gears final drives, where there is high pressure sliding contact. EP has nothing to do with hydraulic pressure. i just want what work best in my tractor. i tried some trans/hydraulic fluid from hew holland. and that seems like it doesnt lift as well, and i have noise in the hydraulics since i changed, i did have the m2c134d, but i was thinking of going to the very original oils of m4864a which is sae 80 for winter , or m4864b sae 90 for summmer. i want something that lifts well and keeps the gears quiet. no guessing please.

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
FC

10-01-2003 12:00:14




Report to Moderator
 Re: re ; oil for transmission/ hydraulic fluid in reply to alaln b., 09-30-2003 23:29:59  
Just my opinion, but go with the GL1 found at any local wal-mart---$20. I used another recommended oil from the local farm supply and it leaked out of every orifice, and started sticking my clutch due to leaking out the front seal of tranny. Changed it to the gl1 and it is back to the same old tractor again without severe leaks and sticking clutch. If your seals, etc are new you might be ok with the thinner oil, but I found that everything worked better using the GL1. I am sure it will be stiff come winter, but I'll deal with it or keep it in the basement when it has to start on extreme days.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
kevin

10-01-2003 10:17:57




Report to Moderator
 Re: re ; oil for transmission/ hydraulic fluid in reply to alaln b., 09-30-2003 23:29:59  
Another free observation- I use the Tractor Supply 90W stuff year round. I have run my 8N at well below zero left outside with no heaters or other starting cheats of any kind, though I need to let it warm up for a few minutes or suffer pretty slow action with the lift. I use 10w30 engine oil also.

fwiw
kevin



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Jim(Ottawa)

10-01-2003 09:44:21




Report to Moderator
 Re: re ; oil for transmission/ hydraulic fluid in reply to alaln b., 09-30-2003 23:29:59  
After reading all the archives and searching high and low I found Esso Marvelube Gear Oil GL1 80W90.
Check with your local Esso, Standard Oil or Mobil distributor. It's in their on-line product listing. Works fine in my 8N during the summer and I'll have to wait a couple of months to seehow it does in the winter



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
souNdguy

10-01-2003 05:44:31




Report to Moderator
 Re: re ; oil for transmission/ hydraulic fluid in reply to alaln b., 09-30-2003 23:29:59  
As you've found out, there are pretty much only 2 oils reccomended ( above freezing )... the thinner 134d oil.. which is the current NH spec.. and the original 9owt mineral gear oil.

If yuo don't like the thinner one.. as you've indicated your lift performance suffers.. then the answer is obvious.. go to the thicker 90wt oil. As someone pointed out.. sometimes you can get the gl-1 90wt mineral oil at wallmart.. and you should also be able to get it at tractor supply co.. brand name is tarveler.. marked as 'ford 1939-1952'

good luck


Soundguy
I think I would forget about the 140wt stuff.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Salmoneye

10-01-2003 03:01:33




Report to Moderator
 Re: re ; oil for transmission/ hydraulic fluid in reply to alaln b., 09-30-2003 23:29:59  
See the link below...



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
PS...

10-01-2003 03:34:52




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: re ; oil for transmission/ hydraulic fluid in reply to Salmoneye, 10-01-2003 03:01:33  
Straight 90 weight 'mineral oil' is available in 5 gallon pails at Wal-Mart here...Even says right on the label "For Use In Older Ford Tractors'...

Salmoneye



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
allan b.

10-01-2003 22:05:13




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: re ; oil for transmission/ hydraulic f in reply to PS..., 10-01-2003 03:34:52  
thanks to all that wrote in. i was getting so many conflicting stories before. now that i have used the 9-n for the summer. and used the thinner universal tractor fluid, i was definately not satisfied with it. i do believe that the thicker gear oils will do better. although not too thick in the winter. i was using the tractor in 85-100% weather. thats when it needs the most help, its got to withstand heat and high pressure, thank-you all for your help and feed-back, i was thinking the same as what alot of you were. i dont want to wreck something that isnt. the seller says use one type of oil, another say use universal, another says use m2c134d in all n-seriers, but it is hard to come by, and i think a-little light. thanks for your help. next i have one more question.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy