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allan b.

10-16-2003 01:41:44




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what would be the easiest to install, and generally good engine heater for the 1940 9-N Ford tractor that i have. tank heaters seam like you have to do alot of jury rigging, although they do circulate the antifreeze through out the engine. i just bought a lower radiator hose heater. but they say you have to have them on an incline. and i dont know if there is enough room to put a hose heater on there. what do you folks use out there. i know there are magnetic heaters for the oil. but i think its better to have the block warm too.but there again they are somewhat expensive, so if you have any comments. thanks in advance allan b.

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Fast Ed Ohio

10-17-2003 00:07:13




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 Re: re what kind of engine heater in reply to allan b., 10-16-2003 01:41:44  
I just use a magnet heater on the side of the oil pan and turn it on if they say its going to snow and its below 20 degrees, just before startup I will heatup the exhaust manifold with a propane torch for a few minutes ( shut off torch ) squirt starter fluid in carb intake, that puppy will start every time as long as you have a good battery and a tune up . ( a bit of dry gas in the fuel tank also helps ).

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Tom-Pa

10-18-2003 03:11:20




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 Re: Re: re what kind of engine heater in reply to Fast Ed Ohio, 10-17-2003 00:07:13  
I use magnetic heaters also. I had my 8N out in the wind and it would not start. covered it with a tarp to block the wind and the heaters worked well then. wind was not cooling it off so fast. I put it on the oil pan and under the tranny (I use 2 heaters) if I will be using the lift...usually will as the snowplow is attached during the winter.



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John C Sparks

11-21-2004 11:13:09




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 Re: Re: Re: re what kind of engine heater in reply to Tom-Pa, 10-18-2003 03:11:20  
Would the magnetic heater work better on the oil pan or the block?



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BillM-OH

10-16-2003 22:19:31




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 Re: re what kind of engine heater in reply to allan b., 10-16-2003 01:41:44  
My 861 (in upstate NY) has had a radiator hose heater for 30+ years -- starts right up fine @ 20 below, except I'm not stupid enough to go and drive it at those temps enny more



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RJ-AZ

10-16-2003 20:42:58




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 Re: re what kind of engine heater in reply to allan b., 10-16-2003 01:41:44  
My dad used a lower hose heater on our 8N that HAD to start everyday in 20 to 30 below weather. He put it on a timer to go off around 4am and when he was ready to go around 7:30 it was warmed up.



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Dell (WA)

10-16-2003 09:33:33




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 Re: re what kind of engine heater in reply to allan b., 10-16-2003 01:41:44  
Allan..... ....as long as you have 50/50 anti-freeze, don't need hotwatter heater in lower hose, (mostta the heat will go out the radiator ennyways) or cylinderhead bolt, or oil dipstick heater. And NO, there are NO freeze plug block heaters for N-Engines because there is no room for the heater gutts inside the block.

Ya really wanna start yer engine innna cold? Heat yer battery. (they do make battery heaters now) When I was young'un growing up in Colorado Mts (now a ski town), used to be nitely ritual of removing the battery from old flathead 6 cylinder Plymouth and bringing it inside along the old coal stove. Really spins the cold engine innna the morning. Now ya can gitt "die-hards'. Neighbor was really cheap, he'd drain the radiator everynite and refill'er in morning from teakettle, too cheap to buy anti-freeze.

If'n I had to do really reliably cold weather N-Starting, I'd heat the battery, magnetic heaters on oilpan and hydro-tranny pan and maybe intake/exhaust manifold. And I'd wear CarHarts Artic zippup coveralls, or maybe some of them fancy expensive snowsuits the ski-mobilers wear, and ALWAYS wear a hat 'cuz mostta yer body heat excapes outta yer head if uncovered. As we used to tell them BoyScouts when snow camping, yer feets cold, puttchur knitted cap on.

Oh yeah, good tune-up always helps cold weather starting..... ..respectfully, Dell

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Stick

10-16-2003 10:18:55




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 Re: Re: re what kind of engine heater in reply to Dell (WA), 10-16-2003 09:33:33  
This one's got me interested too, since I need my 9N to blow snow, and SWMBO will be the one doing it for the most part. It's our 1st winter with it, and it gets real cold here (-40° and lower). She has a lower rad hose heater, and there is some kind of block heater there too. That checks out ok with an ohm meter, but has no cord. It's a funny lookin' thing, made of brass. Maybe some kind of aftermarket thing.

Previous owner said she started good as long as she was plugged in.

I have 10W30 in it for the winter, and MC134D in the hydraulics.

Anyone ever start these old girls in severe cold?

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dw

10-16-2003 07:37:12




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 Re: re what kind of engine heater in reply to allan b., 10-16-2003 01:41:44  
I have used a lower radiator hose heater on my 8N Ford for 30 years, and have had good results with it. It is mounted in the bottom hose right under the water pump inlet. Works good.



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Upper Peninsula, Mich

10-16-2003 06:39:01




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 Re: re what kind of engine heater in reply to allan b., 10-16-2003 01:41:44  
Allan b. I use a magnetic heater on the 9N. It's very portable, so it gets used on other machinery at camp. It works very well and doesn't take very long in almost any kind of weather U.P. here to warm the oil pan up. I recently acquired another 9N that has a hose mounted heater and will be giving it a try shortly. You have several choices and they are all yours and most work well. Ron



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Duner Wi

10-16-2003 05:29:01




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 Re: re what kind of engine heater in reply to allan b., 10-16-2003 01:41:44  
I have a head bolt heater in my 9N for 30 years or so.



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