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9n141

10-21-2003 20:26:54




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Every week someone asks about tractor values and several well meaning people offer their "well meaning advice". My observation is that it is hard to give good advise with limited information and observations being made by someone who is unsure of their own tractor knowedge. For example I purchased an 860 for $4500 a good buy for me. Then I bought a second 860 for $2000 not near as good a deal, I now have $4700 in the second tractor and for another $2000 it still won't be on a par with the first tractor. What happened? When I bought the second tractor it was cold and raining, I was kind of flipent and offered $2000 when the asking price was $3500 and he took my offer!!! I am thinking sometimes we give good advice and other times we are discouraging our friends from buying a good tractor. Just my idea and is not aimed at anyone and I don't know how to improve this situaton Other ideas encouraged and welcome. BURT.

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tlak

10-26-2003 06:31:43




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 Re: Tractor prices and well meaning advice in reply to 9n141, 10-21-2003 20:26:54  
""""well meaning people offer their "well meaning advice"."""
Utimately its the tractor buyer who has to do the final check of the tractor and pull the money out of his/her pocket. When the guy went done $1500 on your tractor warning bells should have went off. Most people the first five hundred would be the only area of negotiation. Some people ask about buying a tractor that you would have ripped your pocket off trying to get the money out and some are told to keep looking, some ask if the *N will pull their logs and do loader work of 5Xs bigger tractor. So of all the well meaning advise on here probably very few are steered wrong.

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daz

10-23-2003 04:46:05




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 Re: Tractor prices and well meaning advice in reply to 9n141, 10-21-2003 20:26:54  
In 1978 I bought my first N tractor. $2100. It was painted very nice. I thought that was a pretty steep price, but since I've used it summer and winter for 25 years, it now appears to be a bargain. Buying a tractor to use is different than buying for profit. You can use almost any N for years and still sell it for almost what you paid providing you sink a lot of extra money into it. The value of these tractors is not decreasing.

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9n141

10-22-2003 20:10:09




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 Re: Tractor prices and well meaning advice in reply to 9n141, 10-21-2003 20:26:54  
Thanks for all the replies, I have enjoyed them. I have a number of FORDS 1939-1964 and i have my own method of assesment with lots of flaws and mistakes. Thanks for your insight. BURT.



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SteveB(wi)

10-23-2003 07:53:42




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 Re: Re: Tractor prices and well meaning advice in reply to 9n141, 10-22-2003 20:10:09  
I plan on winning one in a raffle this week!



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Jerry K. L.I. ,N.Y.

10-23-2003 22:50:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Tractor prices and well meaning advice in reply to SteveB(wi), 10-23-2003 07:53:42  
SteveB Gosh Burt said he would help Santa bring to Long Island. OH well GOOD LUCK TO ALL.

JERRY



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Jim.UT

10-22-2003 09:57:20




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 Re: Tractor prices and well meaning advice in reply to 9n141, 10-21-2003 20:26:54  
You are absolutely right that it's better to spend more for a better tractor. Maybe one of the variables that needs to be considered when evaluating how "good" a particular deal is would be how well do you know the seller? If you know him well, then maybe you can feel better about paying a higher price just because you know how he takes care of his stuff. A stranger may have an equally good tractor for sale for the same price, but how do you know?

I lucked out on my first tractor. Spent about $2500 for an 850 that has been an absolute jewel mechanically. Appearance-wise it still needs attention. The seller was a complete stranger to me so I consider it just luck on my part. I certainly had no expertise in the area.

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Rick H. Ga.

10-22-2003 10:33:50




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 Re: Re: Tractor prices and well meaning advice in reply to Jim.UT, 10-22-2003 09:57:20  
After owning and using my 49 8N for over 25 years, I decided I wanted a newer tractor with live hydraulics, live PTO and power steering. I narrowed my search to a 1970’s era Ford 2000, 2600, 3000, or 3600 (preferably a diesel). I looked long and hard for about two years, with prices averaging between $5000 and $7000. The problem was most of the tractors I looked at had a lot of hours and a lot of ware, even at those prices.

I finally found a 1983 Ford 2310 that met my requirements. The tractor had a low 472 original hours and it had been taken very good care of; the original paint looked great (almost new); the tires were 80% or better. I paid $7650 for the tractor, a nearly new 5 foot brush hog and a heavy duty 3 point lift boom.

I paid about $2000 more than I had planed on but I got tired of looking at $5000 to $6000 used tractors that needed refurbishing/restoring. I figure it was money well spent.

I still like my 8N though, which is semi-retired now. Rick H. Ga.

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Mike

10-22-2003 06:32:22




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 Re: Tractor prices and well meaning advice in reply to 9n141, 10-21-2003 20:26:54  
Hey 9,

I hope you don't mind if I use your first name:o)

Not being a farmer and having no lifelong connections with tractors (other than working on various farms as a kid growing up in northern PA in the '50s) I realized I was at a definite disadvantage when purchasing a tractor. Like you I got lucky with my first tractor (an 8N for $1300), but I also knew it was only dumb luck.

Then on the e-bay I noticed a Used Tractor Price Guide book for sale, it's been so long ago I don't remember the year, but since then I've gotten a new book every other year and currently own 12 tractors.

The book's prices are not hard and fast price rules, but does give you as a buyer, a good educated guess at what the tractor is selling for (they use auctions, private ads and machinery sales for their price determinators) nationwide, and prices vary from area to area around the country.

I would recommend, if you're going to continue to purchase used tractors, you might want to get a copy of the Price Guide, Good luck and good buying.

Mike

PS: If you know of a good 12 step program to help out of control tractor buyers, let me know :o)

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Rick H. Ga.

10-22-2003 05:15:53




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 Re: Tractor prices and well meaning advice in reply to 9n141, 10-21-2003 20:26:54  
Hi Burt,

It is always interesting to hear what others think regarding used tractor values. Used farm tractors are high in demand and all of them usually bring a pretty good price. I’ve inquired about a couple of used tractors lately, that I thought were bargains, and they were already sold. I’ve learned that the bargains don’t last long.

I’ve also learned that you can get burned on a used tractor if you are not careful. Since small farm tractors are good sellers, a lot of individuals are buying and reselling for a profit. There is nothing wrong with that; it is good old entrepreneurial capitalism at its best. And, you are right, it is better to pay a good price up front than to buy cheap and spend a fortune on refurbishing.

Best regards. Rick H. Ga.

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