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Rich -UT

11-12-2003 23:17:54




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My 8n started sputtering when I rev it up. It flat out quit running a couple weeks ago, got it running again after checking spark (ok) and fuel to the carb (ok) but I finally took the carb (Marvel) off and opened it up. I couldn't locate any problems but cleaned it up good and blew it out with air. After I put it back on, the tractor started right up but was running kind of rough. When I rev it up, it hesitates and sputters a little before getting up to full rpms, then when I decrease the throttle, the rpms fall VERY slowly. It stalled and wouldn't start again until I went through the entire process with the carb again, still hesitates, sputters and is slow to respond to change in throttle position. Any ideas on what might be causing this? I have recently (last year) completely rewired the entire tractor and rebuilt the carb. These problems just started a couple weeks ago. Help, I need to plow snow!!

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Evil Steve

11-13-2003 07:27:34




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 Re: 8n started sputtering-hesitating in reply to Rich -UT, 11-12-2003 23:17:54  
Rich-

Sounds like governor, but here's a quick test: Discannect the governor-to-carb linkage and start her up. Manually work the carb throttle with your hand. If rpms respond quickly to your movements, then either the governor needs rebuilding or your linkage is binding somewhere.

Now, as to the sputtering/running rough, I'm not convinced your sparks are correct. When you said you "checked spark" did you actually check point gap and condition? Rotor integrity? Dist cap lobe burning? Plug fouling/gap? Little copper grounding strip and its insulator? Dist shaft play? Etc? Chigger (my '50 B-model) needs points check after every 10 hours or so of run time or 50 starts.

If above is all fine ('cause you checked each) AND manually working the throttle solved the rpm problem, you have a fuel supply/mixture problem. Can be clogged fuel filters (there are 3 of them to check), carb settings/crud, or leak in manifold.

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Rich -UT

11-13-2003 16:31:35




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 Re: Re: 8n started sputtering-hesitating in reply to Evil Steve, 11-13-2003 07:27:34  
Steve,
Thanks for all the good tips. I will do the govenor test you recommend. As far as the spark goes, all I have done so far is to pull each plug one at a time and crank the engine over. Each plug had a strong spark, but I did not check gap or color of the plug due to the poor working conditions I was in, now that I have her back in the shop I can be more thorough. When I did the rewiring, I did not do anything with the distribuitor or points, mainly due to my reservations about getting into it since I have no experience with rotors, caps, points etc. etc. Is this something I should be able to do as a beginning shadetree mechanic? Any advice or specific directions would be welcome. I am not afraid to tackle something new if I have some reliable instructions to work from.
Thanks,
Rich

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Evil Steve

11-14-2003 08:04:44




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 Re: Re: Re: 8n started sputtering-hesitating in reply to Rich -UT, 11-13-2003 16:31:35  
Rich-

Yep, you can do a tune-up yourself. I do recommend that you buy a Ford I&T 04 manual though. Great reference.

This is one of those times I'd like to be able to "beam" myself over to show you exactly what to do. But, I'll walk you through it when you determine what I ask for below.

First, realize that the 1950 model 8Ns switched from front mount to angle (side) mount distributors in mid 1950. You and I need to know which it is. If your coil is a separate canister from your distributor and your distributor cap looks like a normal 5-nipple one, you have a side mount distributor and it has a different tune-up procedure than a front mount. Let us know which it is. Since you are not familiar with tune-ups on these, I'm even more convinced your rough running problem is tune-up related.

On the governor test, to remove the linkage, note that the ends of the linkage are spring loaded so you have to slide the ends outward in order for the little ball on the carb to come out of the linkage.

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Rich -UT

11-15-2003 16:37:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8n started sputtering-hesitating in reply to Evil Steve, 11-14-2003 08:04:44  
Steve, I had a few minutes after work tonight to start her up and do the governor test. The rpms responded quickly to the change in throttle position when I had the governor linkage disconnected and was operating the carb throttle lever by hand. The linkage to the governor is moving freely and not binding up anywhere. What is involved in rebuilding the governor?

After I was done with the test, I re-adjusted the jets on the carb as described in a post by ZANE from 9/7/01 in reply to a post by Brian in Indy "Idle Adjustment Needle" from 9/6/01. This really helped the sputtering and hesitation problem I was having before. However, I took her for a quick spin up the road and with the throttle wide open and traveling in 3rd gear, the engine still sputters a little. Does this mean that I just need to adjust one of the carb needles some more? Would that be the main jet? It got dark before I could do any more with her tonight. Any more suggestions will be welcome.
Thanks again,
Rich in Utah

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Rich -UT

11-14-2003 20:21:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8n started sputtering-hesitating in reply to Evil Steve, 11-14-2003 08:04:44  
Steve,
Thanks for your willingness to help me with this. I have a '48 8N with a front mount distributor. Where is the best place to pick up the Ford manual you recommend?
I haven't had a chance to do the governor test yet due to my work schedule, thanks for the tips.



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Check on..John,PA

11-13-2003 04:20:43




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 Re: 8n started sputtering-hesitating in reply to Rich -UT, 11-12-2003 23:17:54  
If you go down the posts on the forum to the one from PETE, where they write about the govenor, you might try what DELL wrote. Hope this helps.



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Rich -UT

11-13-2003 16:36:40




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 Re: Re: 8n started sputtering-hesitating in reply to Check on..John,PA, 11-13-2003 04:20:43  
John,
Thanks for the reference to the govenor post. I will try those suggestions as well.



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