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Paul from MI

11-13-2003 18:43:11




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What type of oil do you guys recommend for using in my 8N engine? I have seen people recommend 10w-30, 20w-50, straight 30, etc. What advantage does one oil have over another?

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Paul




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jdchet

11-16-2003 07:23:16




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 Re: Motor Oil in reply to Paul from MI, 11-13-2003 18:43:11  
I've used 15-40w motor oil intended for big diesel engines such as Shell Rotella, Mobil Velvac,etc. Seems to hold oil pressure pretty good during 90 degree summer bushogging, but starts good in 10 degree "gotta plow the damn snow" conditions!



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Bruce (VA)

11-14-2003 15:29:57




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 Re: Motor Oil in reply to Paul from MI, 11-13-2003 18:43:11  
The difference between 30w and 10w30 in my '51 8N is 10 less lbs of oil pressure when hot. That's because I pulled the filter, drained the 30w, and then found out that I only had one qt of 30w left, but plenty of 10w30 for the truck. So, being lazy, I used what was on the shelf. This spring, when it's due for another oil change, it's back to 30w.



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Detailed explanation - Ev

11-14-2003 07:48:10




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 Re: Motor Oil in reply to Paul from MI, 11-13-2003 18:43:11  
Paul-

The purpose of oil is to lubricate, protect, and with detergent oil to clean your engine.

You have a tractor that is 50+ years old. Undoubtedly, it has parts which are worn well beyond original specifications. Many have been replaced or machined over the years. Others have not (most likely) usually because someone determined that replacement or machining these parts was not necessary or possible.

Interconnected moving parts wear each other at points of contact. By definition, that means that they become separated little by miniscule little over time (a "gap"). Therefore, when worn, they contact with a tiny shock force. Examples are rod knock, piston slap, dist shaft play, etc. This shock force may later develop into part failure, including things such as thrown rods/broken pistons.

That "gap" and the shock force can be lessened by thicker oil, which is why most mechanics recommend heavier oils in a worn engine. Better protection. Heavier oil also tends to stay in the gaps when the engine is not in use; therefore, he engine has better protection at start-up and warm-up.

THEREFORE, unless you are certain that all engine parts are within original specs, I recommend using 10-40 for cold climates and straight 40 for warm (even 20-50/50 for very warn engines).

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tlak

11-14-2003 02:01:46




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 Re: Motor Oil in reply to Paul from MI, 11-13-2003 18:43:11  
I read a qt of oil at the dollar general store and it said for 1990 cars and older.



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Fast Ed Ohio

11-13-2003 22:23:20




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 Re: Motor Oil in reply to Paul from MI, 11-13-2003 18:43:11  
I use straight 30 wt most of the time , 10w 30 in the winter ( when I remember to change it ) . I think I forgot to change it this year , its to cold to worry about it now . It starts good most of the time and has good oil pressure . The old oil stays very clean looking for several months of light use .



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souNdguy

11-13-2003 19:54:35




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 Re: Motor Oil in reply to Paul from MI, 11-13-2003 18:43:11  
Oil debate is like talking about what you want in a woman ( or man.. for those ladies out there.. ).. Everybodies got their own favorite.. etc.

I try to stick to the manual recomendations.. so her ein florida it is a straight 30wt in the crankcase.. and 90wt in the tranny. As with all things.. condition will dictate your specific oil.. If it is a bit of a worn engine and you need some oil pressure.. 40wt or 20/50 might do ya... In short.. just about any -good- clean oil with a regular change and filter will do ya.

In the archives there are some excelent messages about oils.

good luck

Soundguy

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