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RJM

11-22-2003 18:39:02




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Just ordered a set of brake shoes for a 1943 2N. The shoes are all the same size. My understanding of brake shoes is that there is a primary shoe and a secondary shoe. Did I order the wrong shoes?




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Jeb2N

11-22-2003 19:21:18




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 Re: Brakes in reply to RJM, 11-22-2003 18:39:02  
Stumpy is right. ON a car, the shoes are different lengths because (depending on the rotaion of the wheel) one shoe will try and dig into the drum while the other just slides around. The shoe that "digs in" is made shorter to compensate for its grabiness. On the N tractors, they tried to do the same thing but used the stronger/weaker springs to take up the slack. Stronger spring goes on the "self energizing" shoe.

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stumpy

11-22-2003 19:39:58




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 Re: Re: Brakes in reply to Jeb2N, 11-22-2003 19:21:18  
Thanks jeb you answered the question that formed when I ansered the last one. Spring rate, I'll buy it!



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stumpy

11-22-2003 19:04:34




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 Re: Brakes in reply to RJM, 11-22-2003 18:39:02  
nope! you will get the right parts. I just relined my '40 9N all shoes have an equal amount of lining on them. primary and secondary are legit terms in the automotive world of brakes. one shoe has more lining on it the the other, and is where the saying "short shoe leads" comes from. The only thing you want to keep staight is the location of the brake springs. Green spring on top red spring on bottom, life is grand!
stumpy

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N Puller

11-22-2003 20:09:01




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 Re: Re: Brakes in reply to stumpy, 11-22-2003 19:04:34  
HI stumpy . WHAT ABOUT THE 8N SPRINGS?MY RIGHT BRAKE WORKS GOOD BUT THE LEFT YOU HAVE TO STAND ON THE PEDAL.I HAVE A 3000 THAT IS THE OPPOSITE. LEFT WORKS GOOD. RIGHT NO GOOD. NEW SHOES ON THE 8N HAVE NOT CHECKED THE 3OOO.



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stumpy

11-23-2003 06:11:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Brakes in reply to N Puller, 11-22-2003 20:09:01  
the return springs are just what they say they are return springs. they don't make the brake apply better, the make the brake release better. Have you removed the drums and checked for oil leakage? Another thing to check is lining hardness. If you have two different styles of linings(i.e. one side was replaced, and the other not a brake imbalance will occur). The harder the lining is the longer it will last, however the less effective it will be. The soffter the more effective, but with a shorter life span. I am bringing this info over from my job as a fleet mechanic, application pressure, drum, contact, and friction coefficiant(hardness) are the factors. sorry if this is legnthy, I like to ramble a bit. Stumpy

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