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Ryan MD

01-10-2004 08:50:00




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My 51 8N would not start this morning. It turned over and fired a few times but would not fully start. I also noticed gas dripping from the bottom of the carb through an opening that has a screen over it. Any ideas on how I can get this thing started?

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Ryan




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Jeff (WI)

01-10-2004 21:11:07




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 Re: 51 8N won't start in reply to Ryan MD, 01-10-2004 08:50:00  
I also have a '51 8N that I bought within the last six months, and the same thing happened to me a couple times at first... When trying to fire it up on cold days, try hitting the starter button first for a couple turns and THEN pull the choke knob as the starter's turning. Has cut WAY down on the carb flooding for me! HTH. Jeff.



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Ken/Wa

01-10-2004 15:25:20




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 Re: 51 8N won't start in reply to Ryan MD, 01-10-2004 08:50:00  
Mine did the same, and it was the points. It only floods because you have been turning it over so much. Check the coil spark first.



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Silas

01-10-2004 11:12:36




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 Re: 51 8N won't start in reply to Ryan MD, 01-10-2004 08:50:00  
Hey does the Md mean your from Maryland? Where at in Maryland?



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Ryan MD

01-10-2004 17:48:57




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 Re: Re: 51 8N won't start in reply to Silas, 01-10-2004 11:12:36  
Germantown, MD



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Bob

01-10-2004 11:05:39




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 Re: 51 8N won't start in reply to Ryan MD, 01-10-2004 08:50:00  
Shut off the gas at the tank. Disconnect the air cleaner line at the carb, and allow the extra gas to escape in safe manner so you don't have a fire. (Do you have a good extinguisher handy, just in case?) Turn the gas back on. If gas again runs out try tapping LIGHTLY on the carburetor body near the gas inlet fitting. If the gas flow out the carb air intake stops, you can re-attach the air cleaner pipe, and verify that you have spark at the plugs. Try to start the tractor. Do not try to start it with the pipe removed, because if there is a backfire, flaming gas will shoot out of the carb. You may have to remove the spark plugs and dry them with heat, or you may have to replace the spark plugs, if they have carbon deposits soaked with gas.

If you can't get the gas to stop flowing out of the carb air inlet, you'll have to take the carb of and rebuild it, or at least check the float, and check the needle and set for a chunk of foreign material. While you're at it, remove the gas inlet fitting, and be sure the screen is intact, and clean it.

On the other hand, there may be nothing wrong with the carb at all. If you choked the heck out of it trying to start it in the cold, or if you have ignition problems so it didn't start, the gas buildup may just be from choking it too much.

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Ryan MD

01-10-2004 17:48:17




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 Re: Re: 51 8N won't start in reply to Bob, 01-10-2004 11:05:39  
I drained out the extra gas and waited about an hour. Went back out, and it fired up on the second crank. I must have flooded it by using to much choke. I just got this tractor about 3 weeks ago and I am still learning the nuances. Thanks to everyone that posted advise.

Ryan



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DON TX

01-10-2004 19:54:12




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 Re: Re: Re: 51 8N won't start in reply to Ryan MD, 01-10-2004 17:48:17  
I had the same thing happen this morning. Last week I started it right up. This morning it cranked and cranked before I choked it. Still didn't start. I removed the filter tube and shot some ether. It started right up. It was cold and I should have cranked a little longer. Batt may have been low too.HTH
DON TX



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Bob

01-10-2004 18:22:05




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 Re: Re: Re: 51 8N won't start in reply to Ryan MD, 01-10-2004 17:48:17  
If I wanted to be a smart A**, I'd say I PASSED mindreading (or is that tractor reading?)

Anyhow, I'm glad to hear you got it going! Thanks for posting back!



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Phil(ny)

01-10-2004 09:25:11




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 Re: 51 8N won't start in reply to Ryan MD, 01-10-2004 08:50:00  
it's flooding... try to adjust the float. or the float might have gone bad.... adjust the float to be level with the carb.


HtH



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RoN of ohio

01-10-2004 09:37:36




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 Re: Re: 51 8N won't start in reply to Phil(ny), 01-10-2004 09:25:11  
Did you try starting fluid? I have found that using this is the quickest way to isolate whether it is a fuel or electrical problem. An engine only needs three things to run: fuel, spark and compression. We presume that compression is ok. If it starts with starting fluid, then you have a fuel problem. If it still don't start, then you probably have an electrical problem. Once you have isolated the problem to a specific area, then repair is easier. Just my honest opinion.Ron

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