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Reid Fisher

01-19-2004 17:41:12




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Anyone out there have dimensions handy for the business end of the hand starting crank for a 9N (like pin length, diameter, distance from end, and diameter of crank handle)? I'm just guessing from my Farmall experience that hand cranking is sometimes easier than waiting around for the 6V to charge up.

Thanks!




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Phil9N

01-21-2004 17:36:23




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 Re: 9N starting crank dimensions in reply to Reid Fisher, 01-19-2004 17:41:12  
I'm back after a dialup problem sidetracked us last night. I saw Steve B's posting of his crank handle and I must say it's a bit stouter than mine in some areas. Mine measured 12" on the long part,7 1/2" on the vertical piece and 4 1/2" on the hand grip ! I'll wager Steve's is easier to crank than mine on a cold day. Hope you don't have any trouble and if your pawl on the crankshaft is worn, you can get them at the Ford/New Holland place or maybe aftermarket. Good luck.

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Reid Thanking You All

01-20-2004 13:50:25




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 Re: 9N starting crank dimensions in reply to Reid Fisher, 01-19-2004 17:41:12  
Thanks to all of you. I'll be extra careful, hope never to report a busted arm, and I'll use the monkey grip! The Farmall probably did have about 5 pounds of compression left so maybe I just got away with it. But, have to believe that if 40hp outboard motors can be pull-started every day (even tho they're 2-stroke), then a 20hp tractor can be started safely too. In fact, I wonder if someone's rigged a pull start pulley on a starting crank. Thanks again.

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Stick

01-20-2004 21:26:05




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 Re: Re: 9N starting crank dimensions in reply to Reid Thanking You All, 01-20-2004 13:50:25  
Hand cranking's no huge deal, just a (nearly) lost art. It wasn't that many years ago that most british cars had jack handles that doubled as a starter crank. I ran a 62 Morris Oxford through a Canadian winter handcrank only. 9N's start easy, just plug it in if it's cold out, and watch the thumbs! I know mine starts a mite easier than my Harley kickstarts!



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B.Jones

01-20-2004 03:33:16




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 Re: 9N starting crank dimensions in reply to Reid Fisher, 01-19-2004 17:41:12  

Dad bought the 2-n in 1953. Ever since I can remember there has been a CRANK stuck down behind the 3 point lift lever. The end of the crank fits down behind the right brake release. It fits so nicely there. Dad and I have started it many times with the crank. Dad always got 7 years out of his batteries. The last 4 years we had to start it with the crank as the battery would not turn it over. Now that dad is gone I have fixed it up and I use the starter all the time, but Once in a while I show off to my friends with the crank.

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SteveB(wi)

01-19-2004 19:07:13




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 Re: 9N starting crank dimensions in reply to Reid Fisher, 01-19-2004 17:41:12  
This is from the archives.



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Phil9N

01-19-2004 18:10:29




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 Re: 9N starting crank dimensions in reply to Reid Fisher, 01-19-2004 17:41:12  
I might be able to help you, Reid. I've still got (and use regularly) the crank on my Grandaddy's '39 9N. If I can make myself get up a few minutes earlier in the morning, I'll stop down at the barn and get the dimensions for you and post them tomorrow night when I get home. Sounds like souNdguy has had a bad experience with his at some point as most of us have!! The main thing to remember using the crank is to be in neutral and don't wrap your thumb around the crank,keep it next to your index finger and if it kicks back, she won't bite ya. My 9N will usually fire on the second or third pull-up of the crank unless it's unusually cold or it's got an attitude that day! Will post back ASAP.

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Jeb2N

01-19-2004 18:25:50




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 Re: Re: 9N starting crank dimensions in reply to Phil9N, 01-19-2004 18:10:29  
I wanted to hand crank my 2N just for the sake of saying that I could do it. However, after rebuiling my engine (i haven't started it yet), I tried just turning the engine over by hand with no plugs installed and it was a bear! I'm thinking it'll get easier as the engine gets broken in, but it sure is tight now! Still, i'd like to try hand cranking a few times.



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souNdguy

01-19-2004 17:51:54




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 Re: 9N starting crank dimensions in reply to Reid Fisher, 01-19-2004 17:41:12  
Uh... I would think a 12v jump, followed by being towed to start, and then lastly.. handcranking... in order of ease.. In all of these cases.. you must have some level of charge on the 6v battery in order to get ignition power ( unless it's a magneto ignition.. etc.. )

just my ( and my arm's opinion ).

Soundguy



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duey

01-19-2004 22:25:09




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 Re: Re: 9N starting crank dimensions in reply to souNdguy, 01-19-2004 17:51:54  
I just kind of chuckle when I read about this *dangerous* business of cranking. When you're off in the woods and there's nothing around and/or there's no way else, I'm PLEASED to get the front bumper out of the way and apply the crank... even as a temporary measure when the ringgear went south. My crank rides between the manifold and the head, always. Haven't needed it tho, since I did the sinister deed of converting, no, UPGRADING to 12 volts. That's how it goes when it's my nickle, my tractor.

I've handpropped 85HP 150HP, 230HP and 300HP engines on aircraft, even have hand propped a R-985 which was the easiest, by the way, the 300 was the worst, and have stayed safe and healthy. Make no mistake, I do prefer the electric start for all of them, but there's no fear and dread about starting an engine by hand.

Just my thoughts, duey

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Chris Brown

01-19-2004 18:58:40




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 Re: Re: 9N starting crank dimensions in reply to souNdguy, 01-19-2004 17:51:54  
Been there! I didn't break my arm, I jammed my thumb and sprained my wrist while hand cranking a vac case and it kicked back on me. I drag them now.



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souNdguy

01-19-2004 19:11:46




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 Re: Re: Re: 9N starting crank dimensions in reply to Chris Brown, 01-19-2004 18:58:40  
At a small tractor show a few months ago in a city just north of me, there were quite a few johnny poppers... I was helping the owner with them... I've never spun a flywheel so much in my life. Yep.. needless to say... I'll go with a jump or tow... A hand crank might be nice to say 'i dun it' and then hang it on the wall of the barn.. etc.. though. No harm in nostalgia / collecting related components.. etc.. I'm guilty of that myself..

souNdguy

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