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Paul

01-27-2004 18:09:10




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Thanks to Soundguy for all your help yesterday. I finally got hold of a battery charger and the ol' girl started right up. You could've knocked me over with a feather when I pushed the starter after 3 days in below 15 degree weather and a completely drained battery and she started right up. Guess I hadn't fried the coil after all. What a great machine this 8N.

Paul




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souNdguy

01-28-2004 07:28:00




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 Re: Started right up in reply to Paul, 01-27-2004 18:09:10  
Glad it worked for you.

I'm assuming it is charging as well.

You may want to check the resistor when you get a chance. If it is a 12v conversion.. and the oem type coil.. it will need both.. however on the other hand.. if it has been running like this for a while, you may just want to let it go, ( might run for a long time.. ) and when / if it ever does burn out.. just get a real 12v front mount coil and loose the resistors altogether.

good luck, and if you need any more info, just ask.

Soundguy

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Paul

01-28-2004 12:32:53




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 Re: Re: Started right up in reply to souNdguy, 01-28-2004 07:28:00  
It's a 6 volt and I don't have any plans to convert it to 12. But I might see about installing a warning chime if I leave the lights on with the engine off... Wonder if that's possible...



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souNdguy

01-28-2004 14:05:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Started right up in reply to Paul, 01-28-2004 12:32:53  
It would be very easy to wire up a 'U left the light on' chime.

You would use a 6v NC (normally closed )relay, and a 6v buzzer.

From the light switch, you have the wires running to the lights. also tie in a wire to a buzzer to ground. Next, take that NC relay.. it will have 4 connections... + and - and 2 switch contacts.

Wire the - up to the ignition switch, so that when the ignition is on, the relay is getting power. The + will be wired to ground.. ( assuming you are positive ground. )

That leaves you with the 2 switched contacts. cut the wire for the buzzer, and hook one side of the wire to one contact.. and the other side of the wire to the other contact.

This is what happens in that circuit. When the lights are on, and the ignition is off: the buzzer is energized by the light switch, and sounds , as the relay is unpowered.. and in the 'switch-closed' position, allowing the buzzer to operate. When you turn the ignition on to start the tractor, the relay is energized, and the contacts 'open' halting power to the buzzer. That way you don't have a buzzer going off the whole time you have the lights on. Also with this method.. using a normall closed relay. there isn't anything drawing power while the tractor is off.

Of course if uoi leave your ignition switch on... you will drain your battery from the relay and the points.... relay draws next to nothing though... milliamps.

Some relays will have both nc and no ( normall open ) contacts, and a common terminal. If you use one of these.. choose the common connection and the NC connection.

I like that design.. I think I'll call it the 'light thang'... ( humor )

Soundguy

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Paul

01-28-2004 14:21:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Started right up in reply to souNdguy, 01-28-2004 14:05:46  
Wow! I'm going to try that out. I've printed it so I'll have it in handy when I get around to it. You ought to post this as a initial message. I bet others who wouldn't be following this string would be interested in this idea.



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souNdguy

01-28-2004 16:11:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Started right up in reply to Paul, 01-28-2004 14:21:27  
I've got a little notebook of lots of little electrical upgrades that I've seen here, or like this one, come up on my own, I like the ones using an oil pressure switch as an ignition kill. When your oil pressure drops.. it kills the ignition. There is a comercial product that does this called a 'murphy switch',, you hold in a bypass while starting the machine ( as there is no oil pressure yet ).. and then once oil pressure comes, you let the bypass go, and the oil pressure switch controlls the power to the ignition...

I'll mock up a schematic and post it.

Soundguy

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Paul

01-28-2004 18:09:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Started right up in reply to souNdguy, 01-28-2004 16:11:06  
Call it the Kill Thang.



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