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Thanks for the help and she starts at 35 below

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rich in n minn.

01-28-2004 07:51:27




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Good Morning guys.

The suggestion of covering the radiator with an extra long canvas worked to prevent moisture from getting in my 8n front mount distributor.

Last night the temp was close to 35 below and wind chill of -50 plus. The 8n started right up after being plugged for 1 hour. At that temp, there isn't much room for error in starting however. Crack the throttle and full choke until she fires and quick back with the choke and "nurse" the choke until the old gal is purring. I noticed the starter button didn't want to work at first until I pushed it down for a few times but after snowblowing for 2 hours, it worked fine. Maybe a little ice. 40 wt oil in the engine and 90 in the tranny makes for some slow moving to begin with. By the way Dell, I do appreciate the dearborn snow plow. I knew I was getting a good deal when I got it with the tractor. I can't believe how much snow that outfit can push. Thanks for reading these thoughts on a 30 below morning.

Rich

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Phred MN

01-29-2004 09:56:20




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 Re: Thanks for the help and she starts at 35 below in reply to rich in n minn., 01-28-2004 07:51:27  
My 8N has 12v system 30wt oil. Started fine at -18 degrees F. No blankets or heaters.. Ya gots to wait for a few minutes before you let the clutch out and then let it out real slooooow.



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Upper Peninsula, Mich

01-28-2004 10:00:44




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 Re: Thanks for the help and she starts at 35 below in reply to rich in n minn., 01-28-2004 07:51:27  
Rich. Glad to hear the canvas works as good in MN. as it does in Yooper Land.Have fun in the snow.Ron



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Bruce (VA)

01-28-2004 08:02:47




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 Re: Thanks for the help and she starts at 35 below in reply to rich in n minn., 01-28-2004 07:51:27  
Rich, with this post, you have just ended all N war stories that begin with "My tractor started this morning at X degrees below zero"! One question..... 6 volt or 12?



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Rich in N. Minn

01-28-2004 12:52:16




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 Re: Re: Thanks for the help and she starts at 35 b in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-28-2004 08:02:47  
The tractor has a 6 volt system. Temp at noon was -30 and -60 windchill. I don't think I will try to do any work tonight.



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Brrrrr!!

01-28-2004 08:54:16




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 Re: Re: Thanks for the help and she starts at 35 b in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-28-2004 08:02:47  
My 9N started too this morning. It was -41°C with windchill of -56°C. I have 0W30 engine oil and the thin 134 hyd oil in it. Lower rad hose heater. It had to blow almost 2 feet of snow the length of my driveway, about 400 feet. Then when the truck wouldn't quite start even after being plugged in all night, the N boosted it (yes, it's 12V, a 66A alternator). When it gets this cold, the N stays plugged in all the time, since it usually has to start first, like this morning.

Stick

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RandyinWNY

01-28-2004 09:13:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Thanks for the help and she starts at in reply to Brrrrr!!, 01-28-2004 08:54:16  
Stick, is that straight 30 weight oil you are using and secondly, is it safe to keep a lower radiator in line hose heater plugged in for a long period of time. It won't damage anything will it?
Thanks....Randy



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Stick

01-30-2004 20:03:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanks for the help and she starts in reply to RandyinWNY, 01-28-2004 09:13:17  
No, the oil I use is 0W30! Made for arctic conditions. It flows very easily in the cold, but still has the viscosity of 30W when it's hot. We get it in 0W40 for diesels as well. A rad hose heater, like a block heater, is made to be left plugged in. When it gets really cold, nothing will start without them. Up here, we have block heaters or rad hose heaters or circulating heaters (that plumb in the heater hoses) on every liquid cooled vehicle. Block heaters are automatically installed on every vehicle that is shipped to certain parts of Canada as a "Cold Climate Package", that is not mandatory but no one would ever consider not buying it. I even have rad hose heaters on my old JD snowmobiles. It's funny, when you grow up with engine heaters on everything, it just seems like abuse not to use them. I mean why start a cold engine if you can start an already semi-warm one? It only makes sense. I'm really surprised they aren't more common in the northern states. My ex grew up in Ohio, and had never heard of them. Me, I had never heard of a vehicle NOT having one! LOL!

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