Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Ford 9N, 2N & 8N Discussion Forum
Order Ford 8N Parts Online

Boom pole on 8N; how much how far?

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Bryan in WI

02-09-2004 07:00:54




Report to Moderator

For those that have "been there, done that" If I had one of these small boom poles for sale on my 8N (say the one at TSC), how much could I lift with it, and could I pick something up far enough to get it on the bed of a pickup truck (F150). Specifically, could I pick up a 2 bottom plow (300-400 lbs) and get it far enough off the ground to get it on a standard full size pickup bed? Maybe I'd need a pully or come-along winch to raise it more? I don't have any extra weight on my 8N, would the front wheels come off the ground picking up something like that?

Thanks, Bryan

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Bill W.

02-09-2004 11:59:35




Report to Moderator
 Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Bryan in WI, 02-09-2004 07:00:54  
If your lift is working properly,YES! Easy enough. You can also get about another 8" or l' in lift height by adjusting your top link in.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Result! Bryan in WI

02-09-2004 13:20:18




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Bill W., 02-09-2004 11:59:35  
So I went down to the farm store and bought one. The lift sure knocks, but it does lift the plow that I wanted to lift. I didn't measure to see if it was high enough, but if not I can set it up on some cinder blocks with a first lift, then shorten the chain and lift again to get it up on the truck. This is near the capacity of my 8N lift; lots of knocking but it does lift and it will stay there; got to rev up the engine a little for more power. The leverge must be incredible with a 2 bottom plow with coulters and landslide wheel and everything; I'm going to try to lift as close to the tractor as I can to minimize it.

Thanks to all for comments.
I can hear my wife now;
"Does this tractor make me look fat?"
my answer;
"no dear, but a bigger tractor would make you look almost too thin"

Bryan

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Dave OH

02-09-2004 23:24:35




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Result! Bryan in WI, 02-09-2004 13:20:18  
If you get away with that "line" let me know. I am too chicken to try it myself and to old to withstand a lot of bruising.
Dave OH



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
RWK in WI

02-09-2004 17:51:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Result! Bryan in WI, 02-09-2004 13:20:18  
A trick I sometimes use is to lift the object and then back the truck under it. I avoids the object swinging on the chain and hitting the truck.
Just a thought.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Willy-N

02-09-2004 10:35:49




Report to Moderator
 Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Bryan in WI, 02-09-2004 07:00:54  
third party image

This is on a Ferguson TO-30 same as a 8N or real close. It is a Post Hole Auger Boom modified to be used as a boom pole. It can with the lift arms only go to the ground and up to 5' 7" in height and they will support anything your tractor could ever lift with out bending. I use 2 chains to keep things from twisting when I lift. Look for one of these to use I got this one for 100.00 and it has seen a lot of work. Mark H.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Dave OH

02-09-2004 23:06:06




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Willy-N, 02-09-2004 10:35:49  
Just read your post. You just saved me some money I have a post hole digger and do not use it that much. I was ready to buy a boom pole. Now I can use the money for something else, thanks to you.
Dave OH



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Willy-N

02-10-2004 14:57:24




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Dave OH, 02-09-2004 23:06:06  
Great they are beefy also! I ran a rod thru mine and put steel plates with hooks and shackles on them. That way I could pull the rod out and the boom was not messed up. I just drilled the ands for standard snap rings to keep them on the rod. Mark H.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Dave in Mo

02-09-2004 09:44:56




Report to Moderator
 Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Bryan in WI, 02-09-2004 07:00:54  
I lift my 12-2 w/coulters into my F150 all the time with the 8N. Never lifts the front end. Only issue I have is the swinging motion so ya have to have things planned out like have the tailgate and plow lined up before you lift.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Dave OH

02-09-2004 23:10:48




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Dave in Mo, 02-09-2004 09:44:56  
Are you using sway bars? Or is the boom pole that flexable?
Dave OH



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
souNdguy

02-09-2004 08:17:03




Report to Moderator
 Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Bryan in WI, 02-09-2004 07:00:54  
I didn't try a truck bed.. but I did lift my dearborn 10-1 2 bottom plow off of my trailer with my 8n and boom pole. I just hooked as low as I could hook, considering the height I lifted, and the distance from the tractor to the mtrailer.

Soundguy



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Willy-N

02-09-2004 08:03:18




Report to Moderator
 Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Bryan in WI, 02-09-2004 07:00:54  
third party image

I welded a recever box on top of my rear blade to slide in a 1/4 inch thick 2 in box steel boom into. I can lift up to 9 ft in height or down to 5- ft depending on how I adjust my blade angle. I also can use a come along for lifting. If the weight is to much I can lower the blade for a ancor point. I can lift 1,000 lbs no problem with this set up. Mark H.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Mark

02-09-2004 09:15:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Willy-N, 02-09-2004 08:03:18  
The tractor in the pic does not look like an 8N to me. Looks much bigger and therefore there is more iron up front to offset the weight.

You guys be careful about lifting this way. You can get a backwards roll over, trapping you in the seat and could kill you if not bad hurt.

The name of the game is "Foot-Lbs" Multiply feet x pounds in front of the pivot point vs the same thing aft. If aft is bigger you will tip over backwards.

The 8N will way in around 3000 lbs (give or take 500 or so) but it is distributed anong the length. Whatever you are trying to lift is centered on the end of the pole. Take the wt of the object x the pole length (including the lift arm length) and you have the load.....say 500# x 10' total length from pivot to where 500# is attached and you have 500 x 10 = 5000 lb (ft-lbs) force to counteract.

If it is 10 ft to the front bumber of the N and you put 5 80# sacks of sacrete up there on the front bumper or something, you have 4000# of counter weight plus the tractor's distributed weight which will probably be enough as long as you don't do wheelies.

As far as height, shortening the 3rd member can gain you tons of height.

Be Careful

Mark

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Willy-N

02-09-2004 10:25:30




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Mark, 02-09-2004 09:15:42  
I used to put it on a Ferguson TO 30 and it still worked the same. When the blade is on the ground it would be real hard to lift the front end up with out bending the boom. The tractor in the picture is a Massey 135 not that much bigger than a 8N in size but more weight. Having the blade there gives you a saftey margin if the front end lifts the blade will hit the ground and stop you from tipping or sliding backwards. Mark H.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Mark

02-10-2004 05:56:03




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Willy-N, 02-09-2004 10:25:30  
Funny, that is the first thing that I thought when I saw your picture..... blade preventing flipping over.....great idea.

Mark



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Dave OH

02-09-2004 23:18:57




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Willy-N, 02-09-2004 10:25:30  
We learn something every day. This has been an exceptional day on this Board for me. Must be a lot of people are stuck inside and showing more things because they have more time.
Thanks for your idea.
Dave OH



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Jim(MO)

02-09-2004 07:27:54




Report to Moderator
 Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Bryan in WI, 02-09-2004 07:00:54  
Bryan, I unloaded a Ford 2 X 16" bottom from my Dakota. I drove the PU out from underneath then lowered the plow and movee it with the 3 point. We had loaded it on the Dakota with a Ford 600 and had it attached to the end of the boom . The 600 is a little heavier tractor but not much.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Jim(MO)

02-09-2004 07:26:43




Report to Moderator
 Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Bryan in WI, 02-09-2004 07:00:54  
Bryan, I unloaded a Ford 2 X 16" bottom from my Dakota. I drove the PU out from underneath then lowered the plow and movee it with the 3 point. We had loaded it on the Dakota with a Ford 600 and had it attached to the end of the boom . The 600 is a little heavier tractor but not much.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Jeb2N

02-09-2004 07:13:57




Report to Moderator
 Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Bryan in WI, 02-09-2004 07:00:54  
Just remember that the max lifting capacity for the N (and keeping the front wheels on the ground) is 7-800 lbs on a good, functioning lift with no leaks. When you use a boom pole, remember that the load is farther away from the lift pivot and will therefore amplify the effective load on the lift. In other words, if the load is centered on the lift arm 3-pt hookup, you can lift say 700 lbs. If the load is being lifted at one lift arms' length away from the hitch point, the capacity is rougly reduced by half.

I would hook up the boom pole and see if you have any intermediate hook up points other than at the very end. If you do have intermediate points, find the one closest to the tractor that will give you the height you need and then figure

load to be lifted (plow weight) x distance from lift arm pivot on rear of tractor / length of lift arms = effective lifting load.

Don't want to exceed 750 lbs. I would also lift the load and then back the truck up to the tractor versus backing the tractor up to the truck and risking flip over and possible plow damage. If you have to move the plow to get access to it, put it on a pallet or skid of some sort and pull it to a good location. ONLY pull with the drawbar all the way down!

Jeb

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Mark

02-09-2004 09:28:32




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Jeb2N, 02-09-2004 07:13:57  
The drawbar will pull out to straight horizontal on the N which is not good.

If you made an "A" frame to lock the drawbar to the 3rd member anchor, pulling on the drawbar would not raise it and would put forward pressure on the rear of the tractor "ABOVE" the axle which will help greatly in preventing rearward rollovers.

Remember, never pull anything where the pulling connection to the tractor is ABOVE the axle. It must be BELOW (to force the front down) and sometimes even this is not enough.

I fasioned an A frame out of 3/4" steel pipe for my neighbor who was trying to move roundbales with a doodlebug. Seems the tongue of the doodlebug kept popping up in the air (nothing to hold it down when using the lifting arms as a drawbar). The A frame Worked great.

Massey had a better idea on this with their TO series. They tapped 4 ea 3/4" holes in the bottom of the differential housing so that you could add a real drawbar.

Be Careful

Mark

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bryan in WI

02-09-2004 07:40:10




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Jeb2N, 02-09-2004 07:13:57  
Excellent idea, and that was my plan; just get it picked up and then move the truck. The leverage seems extreme on these things, that is why I was asking about it; seems like you are going to poop out at about 300 lbs. I might be able to take advantage of some slopes too, and get the truck a few inches lower then back under with someone to hold the item from the side to keep it from turning. I have a couple very steep slopes I could use, but I'm too scared to get the tractor even close to those, I don't want to have to take one of those "oops" pictures or worse. Bryan

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
old

02-09-2004 07:11:35




Report to Moderator
 Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Bryan in WI, 02-09-2004 07:00:54  
Yes you could get enough lift to do that but the front of the 8N may not stay on the ground with out some weight up front. But you could always put the wife and kids on the hood of that tractor that would help, or if you have a 300 lbs friend that would help a lot



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bryan in WI

02-09-2004 07:42:43




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to old, 02-09-2004 07:11:35  
Oh man, don't let my wife hear that ha. "Dear, could you just sit here and counterbalance this GIANT PLOW? Why, no, I just thought... " I would be doomed.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
old

02-09-2004 08:52:57




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Boom pole on 8N; how much how far? in reply to Bryan in WI, 02-09-2004 07:42:43  
Well you could put her on the seat and you could ride on the hood. Now heres an idea for you that might really help, take a few 5 gallion buckets and tie them on the the front and fill them with sand or gravel etc. And just to let you know I have an 8N with a backhoe and loader on it and also have a 450lbs cement weight on the front and I still have trouble popping wheeleys



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy