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Alan

02-14-2004 20:52:19




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I have a few jobs to do with my Jubilee and I am wondering how well a scoop would work ,since I don't have a front loader: 1) I have to move about 10 yards of top soil about 200 yards , I have a 1 ton wagon but I don't know if the scoop will lift it high enough to dump it into the wagon. Is there any trick's I can use to get it in the wagon or would it be better just to run back and forth with the tractor and scoop.
2)would it be easier with the scoop pointed forward or backward,if I were to try and use the scoop and no wagon ???
3) I would like to build a backstop for shooting partially by pilling dirt as high as I can get it....How high do you think I can get the wall of dirt and how could I do it....I don't care how wide or deep it is,the wider the better.....
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...Thanks..Alan

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Dave(WI)

02-15-2004 14:58:55




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 Re: Scoop help in reply to Alan, 02-14-2004 20:52:19  
Alan, I've built roads with my scoop. It takes time and experience is your best teacher. I added a few changes to my scoop for digging. For your #1 project, If the dirt pile is on level hard ground I would back into it with sway bars to keep some of the pressure off your arms. Also, hauling it 200 yards will take time, so if the ground is flat, you can go forward in 3rd gear but do it safely. As for project in your point #3 (shooting range). Why not build a backdrop from a long trench which would be your shooting range. Dig it out by pulling the scoop forward and pile it up for a backdrop. This will also cut down on noise since you would be shooting from a gully or ditch. Just be sure to stager your cuts or your tractor will tilt to one side if your first and second drags are from the same cut. If you get down to gravel, you shouldn't have a drainage problem.

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TomP

02-15-2004 12:12:34




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 Re: Scoop help in reply to Alan, 02-14-2004 20:52:19  
Alan - I am constructing a dam for a pond using my 8N and a rear scoop. It is currently 13 feet high and about 175 feet long. Would have made one heck of a shooting backstop before water fill up.



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Mike S

02-15-2004 05:04:24




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 Re: Scoop help in reply to Alan, 02-14-2004 20:52:19  
I did the same thing last year with my NAA, but only had to go half that distance. Took most of a morning, but it worked fine. I used the scoop backwards and forwards and decided backwards was easier. I was able to pile the dirt up about 4 feet high by building a small ramp as I went, kinda like that story about the donkey in a well, climbing out on the dirt that was thrown down. Good luck.



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Mike S

02-15-2004 05:03:59




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 Re: Scoop help in reply to Alan, 02-14-2004 20:52:19  
I did the same thing last year with my NAA, but only had to go half that distance. Took most of a morning, but it worked fine. I used the scoop backwards and forwards and decided backwards was easier. I was able to pile the dirt up about 4 feet high by building a small ramp as I went, kinda like that story about the donkey in well, climbing out on the dirt that was thrown down. Good luck.



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souNdguy

02-14-2004 21:29:30




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 Re: Scoop help in reply to Alan, 02-14-2004 20:52:19  
Undoubtedly a loader would be prime for moving and stacking dirt. Depending ont he height of your trailer.. you might be able to dump dirt into it using your rear scoop.. just have to measure the dump height... one issue will be getting the dirt far back into the trailer.

Unless you have a dug out spot to park the trailer in.. and dirt rampway up to it, so that you are dumping over into the back of it.. it will probably be more hassle than its worth.

I moved about 10 yards of dirt with a 30" rear scoop and a 21hp jap tractor while prepping arounf my house as it was being built. So moving via tractor and scoop is viable. I think you'll find that your pile will not go any higher than your scoop drop height. You can push it up some with a box.. but not much. Additinally, you could ramp one side of it to pull up on as you build it.. or even make it like a small berm, driving up on it dumping, and driving down the long sides... kind of like how an heavy equipment earthmoving scraper pan would dump out.

It is going to be a bunch of work either way.

I fthe material is iin a stock pile... I would mount the scoop facing the rear.. and take advantage of the jub's live hyds and back into the pile while lifting. Shorten the toplink a bit to provide a good bite, and being angled slightly back when lifted will hold your load of dirt as you travel.

If you had a friend with a loader or bull dozer you would be set..

Soundguy

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