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Rich

02-18-2004 07:31:32

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Has anyone ever been plagued with what appears to be super fine sand in the sediment bowl? This happened to me years ago when I had bought my '63 4000 and had rebuilt the carburetor. Not only was the sediment bowl half filled with this stuff, but it was in the bottom of the carb bowl as well. What is this stuff? I have always taken great pains to ensure the cleanliness of my 5 gallon gas tanks and in making sure that nothing dropped into the tank when I was filling it. I'm not happy about this stuff and am worried that it will make it's way into the cylinders and cause all sorts of trouble. Help!

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stumpy

02-18-2004 16:02:00

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Re: Sand in the sediment bowl in reply to Rich, 02-18-2004 07:31:32

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, look in your N's gas tank and you will see the rust! Best advice keep your tank full!!!! No room for temp swings from engine running to cold to cause vented tank to draw in moisture that collects on exposed steel inside. Warm gasoline expands, cools and contracts. I have the same problem with the mud. It got all the way to my carb, really screwed things up! As Dell said N fuel systems are not crazy about extra paper filter in line( head pressure of fuel in tank is reduced by each filter acting as a restriction). My 2N is missing 2 (elbow at carb and screenin the tank). I have installed a Fram G-1 filter in line to cut the mud out. Replaced it 3 times in one week mounting it vertical, got better as time went on, still have rust migrating out of tank. Keeping the tank as full as possible will be your best protection.

****ALWAYS SHUT THE FUEL OFF AS YOUR MUD CAN CAUSE THE FLOAT TO STICK MAKING A LARGE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION*******

Best o luck:)

Stumpy

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Dell (WA)

02-18-2004 07:48:10

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Re: Sand in the sediment bowl in reply to Rich, 02-18-2004 07:31:32

Rich..... ...know what yer talkin' about. I don't think it's sand, I think its fine rust. And it may even coming from the gas station tanks. Thats why some people like paper gas filters. Howsomevers, some people claim that N's gravity feed gas system don't like paper filters. If'n it ain't cloggin yer float valve, it probably fine enuff not to clog your jets. The fines just settle out. But I'm not an "authority", just experienced..... ....Dell

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Jeff

02-18-2004 08:49:26

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Re: Re: Sand in the sediment bowl in reply to Dell (WA), 02-18-2004 07:48:10

Here is what I did to install a very useful paper filter.....

1. (1) 12" piece of 1/4" brake line

2. (1) 1/4" hydraulic brake line union

3. about 12" of rubber fuel line

4. Paper filter from NAPA designed for gravity system.

5. (2) 1/4" male hose barb adapters (threaded to accept the female union and threads of the carb)

Take the 12" section of brake line and screw it into the sediment bowl assembly..... ..

Then, screw the female union onto the end of the brake line.

Next, take the 1/4" hose barb adeapters and thread them on the end of the female union and one into the carb.

All you have to do now is run some hose off the end of the upper hose barb and attach it to the filter...then from the bottom of the filter to the carb. I like a clear plastic filter because I am just that way. It seems to work just fine and mine has caught quite a bit of gunk and crud so far. Should put an end to the stuck float condition!!!

If anybody wants a pic of the setup just let me know and I can send it!

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souNdguy

02-18-2004 07:43:07

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Re: Sand in the sediment bowl in reply to Rich, 02-18-2004 07:31:32

I've seen stuff that looked like 'clay fines'.

And I have no idea where it comes from either.. but my NAA had a load of it inthe sediment bowl when i got it.. same with my 8n and IH cub..

Soundguy

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