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Next Fuel shut off question

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Al Amstutz

02-09-2001 04:57:10




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Ok Guys, Thanks VERY much for your helpful and informative advice regarding shutting off the fuel. Now for the next installment. If I do leave the fuel on for - say- and hour while in for lunch, or whatever. Might it be hard to start due to fuel "leaking" into the carb?? i.e. could it flood due to the fuel being left on?
Thanks, this is a great spot for learning.
Al




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Bill

02-10-2001 08:35:17




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 Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Al Amstutz, 02-09-2001 04:57:10  
I'm betting my ancestors who had to hand crank these things NEVER EVER forgot to turn the fuel off.

Bill Stanley



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Steveo

02-09-2001 09:58:07




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 Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Al Amstutz, 02-09-2001 04:57:10  
I never shut my 8N fuel off. I'd obviously turn it off if it leaked, then work on fixing the leak. I'll sometimes go 3-4 weeks without using the tractor, and it'll fire up right away, summer or winter (except when she's in the single digits). I'd say it's an accident waiting to happen if you're leaking fuel, especially if you FORGET to shut it off.

Steveo



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Salmoneye

02-09-2001 11:15:41




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 Re: Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Steveo, 02-09-2001 09:58:07  
The point of shutting off the fuel is not for an external leak so much as an internal leak.
As others have stated below, if you get a piece of junk between the needle and seat and the fuel keeps filling the carb, the only place for it to go is up.
Gravity will fill the breather and the manifold with fuel. You go to start it like that and you will then wish you had turned off the fuel at the tank. At the very least it will make it very hard to start.

My float closes the needle very well, but I always shut off the gas at the tank as I can not afford to pay to fix anything at this point, especially if I can prevent it in the first place...

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Steveo

02-09-2001 18:56:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Salmoneye, 02-09-2001 11:15:41  
There's two fine filters between the tank and the needle valve, not worried about much gettin through them. Thanks for the insight!



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Salmoneye

02-10-2001 02:12:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Steveo, 02-09-2001 18:56:28  
There are actually 3 screens from tank to carb,
but they don't catch everything...

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But make sure you remember to turn it back on!!!

02-09-2001 08:35:26




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 Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Al Amstutz, 02-09-2001 04:57:10  
Don't ask why....



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Bill

02-09-2001 07:34:23




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 Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Al Amstutz, 02-09-2001 04:57:10  
If it leaks it will be hard to start. If it doesn't it won't. Since you have no way of knowing when a speck of trash or rust will show up the safe way is to shut the fuel off.

My experience is that all gas cans and gas tanks have some trash. No matter how many times I clean a tank there is some trash the next time I look at it. Same with the glass filter bowl on the tractor and every gas can that I have. Maybe the trash gods don't like me or something.

Bill Stanley

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Gaspump

02-09-2001 06:37:14




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 Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Al Amstutz, 02-09-2001 04:57:10  
In the days when these tractors were new or nearly so I don't know anyone that used to shut off the fuel. I have a 960 that rarely, if ever has had the fuel turned off (it is a little harder to do as it requires a screwdriver). However, it only takes one small particle such as rust or dirt to jam the needle off its seat causing a leak. Also the replacement needles and seats do not seem to have the precision of those made 40-50 years ago and many tend to seep. Be on the safe side, turn off the fuel.

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Mike B IL

02-09-2001 06:31:17




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 Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Al Amstutz, 02-09-2001 04:57:10  
Shut off the fuel! With the price of gas it make good cents. When I first got my tractor I did not shut the fuel off, after reading theses posts over the years I started to shut it off every time I turneded it off. It starts much better now.



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Jerry WI

02-09-2001 06:21:06




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 Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Al Amstutz, 02-09-2001 04:57:10  
Al, I've learned from reading the post on the board that it just makes sense to me to shut off the fuel when done for the day. I to have walked into the garage to find a sizable pool of gas on the floor. So now when I'm done I shut off the fuel and let the carb run out of gas. For a one hour break, I still shut the fuel off but don't let it run until it is out of gas.
In either case the key is turned off and removed to hang on the throttle arm. Good liuck and have at her.

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ED

02-09-2001 06:12:13




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 Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Al Amstutz, 02-09-2001 04:57:10  
I have a 1946 2N. I used to leave my fuel turned on all the time with no problem starting at all. Then winter came along and I started parking my 2N in the garage. After seeing the pool of fuel that collected on the floor, I started turning it off.



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Al English

02-09-2001 06:09:52




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 Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Al Amstutz, 02-09-2001 04:57:10  
Hi Al, it looks like the answer is it depends on your tractor. Maybe I shouldn't anger the gods by telling everyone this, but I don't turn the fuel off on my 641 and it doesen't leak a drop.....really,,,,,Al English



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Keith 8N16114

02-09-2001 05:28:53




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 Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Al Amstutz, 02-09-2001 04:57:10  
I never turn my fuel off. I run my tractor at least every two or three days at the longest and have never had a problem. I once left it on for 2 weeks while I was out of town. It fired right up.



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don t. - 9n180179

02-09-2001 05:10:16




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 Re: Next Fuel shut off question in reply to Al Amstutz, 02-09-2001 04:57:10  
The short time I've had "my toy", I've learned to shut off the gas if its not in use for more than 15 minutes. I have rebuilt the carb, adjusted the float to specs but still cant get the d&*n thing to stop leaking. I know/think that this aint right but I've just learned to live with till it gets warmer. For me its not a big hassle. And yes I turn it off everytime Im done with it for the day.



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