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Another Bob

03-15-2004 14:50:32




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Like others, got a wiring kit from a vendor, and it ain't as simple to rewire as I hoped. Not a convert to 12V,have enough problems with my 47 8N with front mount distributor. I have my FO4 diagram and it helps up to a point Wires from generator to regulator, a new one, pretty easy,but wires from the resistor block go where?Looking toward the firewall from the front of the tractor,the resistor block has three terminals, and the two terminals on a new ampmeter. What wire goes where? One wire goes from the resistor block to the Voltage Reg.Right? What else?

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Another Bob

03-15-2004 19:31:00




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 Re: more re-wiring help needed in reply to Another Bob, 03-15-2004 14:50:32  
I really meant what is 51 that the left terminal connects to? I'm not going to hook up the headlights. Cause I'm not going to be running around on that thing at night anyway. If I have to I'll use a flashlight.
But I would like to get it started.



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souNdguy

03-16-2004 05:16:35




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 Re: Re: more re-wiring help needed in reply to Another Bob , 03-15-2004 19:31:00  
Ok.. just for you.. special blow by blow breakdown of the schematic. As Dell mentioned what you see as 52 is S2.. meaning switch 2.. headlight switch. 51 as you see it is S1, which is switch 1, ignition switch.

First.. positige ground.. meaning battery positive cable hooks to tractor frame. Battery negative goes to the big stud on the solenoid that is closest to the back of the tractor..( the small third stud MUST point toward the tractor )
Just to clarify.. the other big stud on the solenoid.. then jumps right over to the stud on the starter.. most have a heavy copper strip doing this. Ok.. back to that first big stud the battery - is hooked to.. add another wire.. this goes to the ammeter. in one terminal.. out the other... from there to the bottom terminal or the resistor block..a wire from there to the ignition switch, The other wire from the ignition switch to one of the top terminals on the resistor. From the other top terminal on the resistor, a wire goes to the ignition coil.

That is the basics for the ifnition system.

Regulator hookup is easy.. Armature ( the big stud on back of the genny ) goes to the arm connection on the regulator..( old regulators may say gen for generator instead of arm for armature. ) there will be a field terminal on the casing of the genny.. it will be insulated from the case by a rubber /plastic or phenolic washer.. that goes to the field on the regulator. There will also be a ground stud on the genny casing.. that goes to the regulators ground reference tab. The regulator will have a batt tab.. this is the 'charge out' to the tractors electrical system... it goes to that bottom terminal on the wire block where your ammeter is also wired to.

At this point.. you need to polarize the genny... momemtarilly jumper the arm and batt terminals together at the regulator.. there will be a small spark.. it is normal.

Assuming all your equipment is working.. and you wired it right.. it should run and charge.. ammeter should show an initially high charge to charge back up after starting.. then it should taper off to 3-4 amps for ignition. Take a voltage reading on the battery.. should be in the 7.xx range somewhere.

If your ammeter is wired backwards accidentially.. you may see the reverse of what I said.. a large swing negative that tapers off to a small negative amount... If you are sure it is charging 9 voltmeter across battery.. voltage at 7.xx ) then just reverse how you have your ammeter hooked up..

Lights... these don't need to be complicated. Add a wire at that third terminal on the wire block again.. the one that has the ammeter and the genny batt line hooked to it... run this wire to a heavy duty light switch.. type doesn't matter.. push/pull / toggle.. etc.. just get one rated for the amps you need ( hint.. a single 35 watt lamp uses about 6 amps.. a single 55 watt lamp uses about 9 amps ( 6v lamps.. etc.. 35 watt is most common.. 2 lmaps is 12 amps.. a third ( rear ) lamp makes that 18 amps. Most good light switches have a fuse holder... use a slow blow 20 amp fues.. or a 25 amp fuse if you go all 3 lights..or a 15 amp fuse for 2 lights..
Also.. most light kits are made to ground via the sheet metal.. and then have a single wire for power. I always run a ground wire to each light to make sure they have good ground.. My sheet metal has been on and off my tractor so much that I don't trust it to make a good ground thru paint, etc. Just choose a bolt on the steering colum.. or batter box ( batter ground at box? ) and run that wire over to the area you mount hte light.. add a big ring terminal connector.. and bolt your light thru it at the sheetmetal.. tighten down.. hook up power to the lights and yer off.

Soundguy

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Another Bob

03-15-2004 19:17:52




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 Re: more re-wiring help needed in reply to Another Bob, 03-15-2004 14:50:32  
Re: re-wiring help needed. Thanks, but yoo just don't know how incredibly stupid I am on this wiring bit. That terminal on the left goes to what: 52? What does it connect to? I need something like A connects to B.



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uh . . . Dell (WA)

03-15-2004 22:11:55




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 Re: Re: more re-wiring help needed in reply to Another Bob, 03-15-2004 19:17:52  
Bob..... ...better get yer eyeballs checked....that is "S2" NOT "52". S2 is techincal talk for switch #2, the HEADLIGHT SWITCH. As Sounder sez: DON'T run yer headlight switch thru the weak sister ignition switch "S1", understand?..... ...Dell



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souNdguy

03-15-2004 17:08:57




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 Re: more re-wiring help needed in reply to Another Bob, 03-15-2004 14:50:32  
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Try this wire diagram.. it came from nseries.com

One thing.. disregard how hte lights are wired thru the ignition switch. Instead wire them from the other side of the ignition switch.. the hot side.. And use their own switch.. that way the power for the lights does not go thru the ignition switch.. it will hasten its death if you run the lights of fhte ignition..

Soundguy

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