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2N spark plug wires

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Obi-Wan

03-23-2004 17:06:15




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My grandparents have a 1943 2N that they've owned for most of its life (they've had it as long as my Dad, born in '45, can remember). It sees light duty grading the gravel lane, sometimes mowing the pasture, and plowing the lane (on the odd occasion that the tractor will start in the winter). I've got a number of questions, but I'll post them in separate messages to keep the topics separate.

My dad paid a guy to R&R the engine a couple years ago, and it was converted to 12V with a GM alternator at that time. It's back to running like crap, so I'm looking into it now. Most of my automotive experience is on Jeeps built in the last 30 years, so a 60-yr-old tractor is new for me.

I noticed that the spark plug wires on this thing appear to be very old if not original. The wires at the plug end don't have any boots on them -- just the terminal attached to the plug. Is this the way it's supposed to be? It would seem to me that 20,000V would arc like crazy from the terminal to the head. The cap end of the wires also fit very loosly, but that's easy enough to fix by expanding the plug.

The tractor now runs on 12V, but I don't know what, if anything, was done to the coil during the R&R. I know the distributor cap is new. Should I be just fine running these old wires, or might they be the source of the poor running that we're experiencing? Would it be worth the trouble & expence of replacing the wires with generic, solid-core, 7mm auto wires?

If I do replace them, is it worth the trouble to try to feed the new wires through the little tube above the engine, or is it OK to just zip-tie them to the outside of the tube?

I'm not concerned with a show-quality resto. We just want this old gal to run reliably when we need her to.

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Dell (WA)

03-23-2004 17:27:38




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 Re: 2N spark plug wires in reply to Obi-Wan, 03-23-2004 17:06:15  
Obi-Wan..... ....unless you know for certain that your current sparkplug wires were recently replaced (check: should be soft and flexable stranded metal-core, NOT modern anti-static carbon-core) I'd replace 'em. In 1992, when I got my 8N, I went to my local "hot-rod" parts house and got a set of copper-core silicon insulated Pontiac V-8 sparkie wires 'cuz they had molded right-angle sparkie boots. CUT TO FIT. Soldered the distributor end-caps. And I don't have any problem starting on 6 volts.

You should use the "tube" to route your sparkie wires. Silicon spray lube helps to install.

Remember yer frontmount firing order is 1,2,4,3 CCW. That means:
Sparkie #1 connects to nipple #1 at 10 o'clock
Sparkie #2 connects to nipple #2 at 8 o'clock
Simple eh? now pay attention 'cuz it gitts tricky here
Sparkie #4 connects to nipple #3 at 4 o'clock Sparkie #3 connects to nipple #4 at 2 o'clock
vola' firing order 1,2,4,3 CCW, isn't that amazing?

Recommend hotter AutoLite AL-437 sparkies gapped checked at 0.025..... ....Dell

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Obi-Wan

03-23-2004 21:57:02




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 Re: Re: 2N spark plug wires in reply to Dell (WA), 03-23-2004 17:27:38  
> Recommend hotter AutoLite AL-437 sparkies gapped checked at 0.025

How (and how much) does this affect how the engine runs, assuming I've fixed all my other problems?

The plugs I just removed were AL437's. One of the insulators was cracked, and the others looked pretty nasty, so I bought replacements. The parts book recommended a different plug with a shorter electrode (Champion, in this case) as the factory replacement plug, so that's what I got. This happened earlier today, before I posted my first message here.

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Dell (WA)

03-23-2004 23:35:48




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 Re: Re: Re: 2N spark plug wires in reply to Obi-Wan, 03-23-2004 21:57:02  
Obi-Wan..... ....modern no-lead gasoline fouls the OEM Champion H-10. Therefore, we recommend a "hotter" sparkplug. Champion H-12 or AutoLite AL-437. As to why your sparkies were cracked, who knows?..... ....Dell



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Obi-Wan

03-23-2004 17:35:08




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 Re: Re: 2N spark plug wires in reply to Dell (WA), 03-23-2004 17:27:38  
Thanks for the quick reply, Dell.

When you say CCW, is that from the tractor's perspective, or from my perspective as I'm sitting in front of the tractor facing rearward?

The current wires are somewhat flexible, but the outer jackets are a little stiff and "molded" to shape. I'm sure they were not replaced during the R&R just a few years ago.

It doesn't currently have any trouble starting when the engine's cold and the air temp is warm, even though one of the plug wires was disconnected from the distributor & hanging in the breeze.

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Dell (WA)

03-23-2004 19:20:11




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 Re: Re: Re: 2N spark plug wires in reply to Obi-Wan, 03-23-2004 17:35:08  
Obi-Wan..... ....CCW is from your perspective as you look at the distributor cap..... ...Dell



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